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Las ([personal profile] whynot) wrote2009-04-07 11:26 pm
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he's a milkionaire

[Poll #1379925]
So what's everyone doing for Easter?

Also, LET US TALK ABOUT SKINS.

-- Anwaaaaaaaaar! Maxxiiiiiiieee! SIIIIIIIIID omg Sid. CASSSIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!!! Are my favorites, and I cannot choose one among them. Okay, fine fine fine: SID. AND CASSIE. AND SID/CASSIE.

-- It's difficult not to ship canon ships, since everyone sleeps with everyone else, though Sid and Cassie are the socially inept OTP of my heart. Anwar and Maxxie's epic BFFness makes my heart swell and swell and swell. And Cassie&Chris as roommate BFFs are amaaaaaazing, i love it. The whole exchange about Sid and his milk omg!

-- One of my favorite FAVORITE scenes is when Maxxie tells Anwar's dad he's gay, and Anwar's dad is just amazing about it. "I believe my god will one day make me understand. That is faith to me." argh, i TEARED UP. That is one of the best things you can hear from a parent when you expected them to be weighed down by the prejudices of their (AND YOUR OWN) background instead. (OH TV PARENTS.)

-- I am always on the verge of disliking Cassie, but there is something endearing about her. I am always on the verge of madly fangirling Effy, but there is something off-putting about her.

-- OMG WILL DIED AGAIN. WTF. He must be getting really good at it, this dying lark. 'Cept, instead of brigands out to pillage his village, it was a brain tumor. Dude, I was totally ready to write a futurefic about Chris and how life is kind of like an extended hangover. Maybe I will make it about Sid now. SIGH. (STOP DYING, JOE DEMPSIE.)

-- Sid totally improbably found Cassie in New York and are shacking up and being discombobulated together. TOTALLY. omg it must not be otherwiissee

-- Maxxie is the prettiest thing to have strolled across my computer screen since 'Merlin'. I try to say more about his character and keep on getting distracted by his shiny, shiny hair.

-- OSAMA THE MUSICAL. ahahahahaha. Every time I saw the band dressed up as skyscrapers, I lose my shit. (I am FASCINATED by British portrayals of the USA. FASCINATED.)

-- ALSO, when Anwar and Sketch fuck for the first time, and he has to list Hugh Grant's filmography to slow things down??! "I NEVER LAST UNTIL 'ABOUT A BOY'." I LOL'ED FOREVER.

-- ...because I can't unsee the kid from 'About a Boy' when I look at Tony ever.

Augh, ENTERTAINMENT. Awesome mix of poignancy, absurdity, and a shitload of cuddles. Everyone just makes out and cuddles all over the place and <33333.

A smattering of moments where I went, "I guess that's cute, but also REALLY BIZARRE":
---- Sid's mom underreaction to finding Anwar and Sketch fucking on Sid's bed
---- Maxxie's heartfelt confession in front of THE WHOLE CLASS about getting a blowjob from Tony in Russia
---- Anwar's split-second to decision to join Maxxie and his boyfriend in London, with only the clothes on his back

In short, please rec me pre-series3 Skins fic of all shapes and sizes! Or give me Skins prompts and I might maybe drabble for you!

[identity profile] zempasuchil.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
I don't have cigarettes so I would not take their money or give them anything. But if I had one I would sell it to them for a buck.

http://www.newyorker.com/fiction/poetry/2009/03/23/090323po_poem_phillips

[identity profile] mumblemutter.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
Eee Carl Philips! Do you know Sea Glass? I can't find it online so, uh, here:


It's cold here, in the wind. Night fog. We can

leave, if you like. Moral landscapes, coming down
as usual to a foreground all agony, pursuant
joy, more agony, a lesson
                          insisting hypnotically,
grass-like, wave-like, ever on itself -
                                        this time,
it's not like that. The body is not an allegory - it
can't help that it looks like one, any more than
it can avoid not being able to stay. All along,
it was true: timing really
                           is everything. I've

loved this life. If it's one thing to have missed
the constellations for the stars themselves,
it's another, entirely,
to have never looked up.
Some mistakes, given time, don't seem mistakes -
I'm counting on that; others, though perhaps
a little bit still worth being sorry for,
                                         lose force,
we forget them mostly, or we say we have and,
almost, we surprise
ourselves, even - we mean

what we say: It's cold here. It's dark. Follow me.



Oh, and I loved Sea Change, hi, hello.

(Also, ahahaha fuck, less than 150 characters and I manage to leave a typo in. So much fail!)

[identity profile] zempasuchil.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't read this before! ohhh, my god, I love it - I love Carl Phillips' poetry with every ounce of my being - that part about constellations, and mistakes that eventually don't seem mistakes. he is so cool. I got to meet him once. He's very shy and tall.

eee, thank you, hi, hello :))))

[identity profile] mumblemutter.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
!!! That's kind of awesome. To be honest, that's the only poem of his in my obsessive little collection, but I must have *read* more than that. But anyway, yay for meeting him! I kinda wish I could have met Yehuda Amichai when he was still alive. Although I would have just stared at him all creepily, like this: ♥_♥, so it's probably for the best.

[identity profile] zempasuchil.livejournal.com 2009-04-10 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, the creepy staring, I think that must be a thing one has to practice to get rid of. *shifty eyes*

I don't think I've heard of Yehuda Amichai. *googles*

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2009-04-10 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
OMG

he is one of my favorites. A COLLECTION OF MY FAVORITE AMICHAI: http://lassiterfics.livejournal.com/71497.html

[identity profile] zempasuchil.livejournal.com 2009-04-10 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
ooohhhhh. Those are beautiful, really beautiful. poets.org needs to get on those.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't even notice the typo, 'cos I was too busy going "omg arthur/jaaaaaaack dhfjsdfksl"

OF WHICH THE WORLD NEEDS MORE. omg these pretty gay princes and their daddy issues and attractive country-hick-cum-royal-attendants! also that is a great poem. thanks

[identity profile] mumblemutter.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
The similarities *are* quite astounding, aren't they. Of course, gay hotass with daddy issues is probably an archetype as old as, well. The Bible, I guess. Possibly without the heartbreakingly well-meaning subordinates, though. Oh, oh, David/Merlin?

Also, omg, they were so angsty in my head! There would be so much emo! Or maybe just some quiet bonding and brattishness and omelettes. You know, I wonder if Jack's idea of a Good Time would still involve loud music and a crowd of hipsters and getting really really wasted if it didn't come with all the added baggage of trying to pretend and spitting his father in the face. I mean, it's kind of ridiculous how much he defaults to PARTY WHOO!!! in any given situation. Arthur should just take him on a quiet hunting trip or something. It doesn't mend a broken heart, but it's good fun.

PS. Jack/Joseph. :-(((((

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2009-04-10 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm finding David pretty boring thus far. I dunno, mostly I am impressed by Silas, Rose, and the reverend. I'm sort of intrigued by Tomasina and those two guards. I'm kind of waiting for fic to convince me of everyone's awesomeness. BUT YES DAVID/MERLIN, and they can talk shop about destiny and overbearing princes.

Who is Joseph?

ARTHUR AND JACK GOING HUNTING yessssssssss

[identity profile] mumblemutter.livejournal.com 2009-04-11 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Joseph is the "I love you" guy from the 'First Night' ep, he was in it for about ten seconds, but they gave him a name anyway! In my head, he and Jack have/had this totally epic thing going on; I'm basing this mostly entirely on the heavy breathing on Jack's part when he lunges at him in the club and the conversation and subsequent freak-out with the girlfriend on the balcony as they watch David walk away, because "the poor dope is in love and doesn't know how to let go," and the thing is that David can make this choice and Jack cannot and oh, I'm gobbling this all up with a spoon, as you can see.

Digression: I adore fandom sometimes, okay. Adore, adore, adore. I think the first Jack/David fics started popping up on del.icio.us after the second episode or so and there is absolutely *nothing* in canon that supports this, nothing at all, and people do not CARE. It's in the Bible, it shall be written. Oh fandom, never change.

Thomasina is absolutely intriguing (I loved the scene where she told Silas the codeword for his second family) and also soooo pretty, ahem ahem; and the guards always make me think of Shakespeare or something, like some kind of greek chorus thing I don't get that elevates the whole show from merely overwrought to adorably pretentious. Idk. I'm just hoping it won't get dropped anytime soon. I want to see where this is going.

[identity profile] zempasuchil.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
also I feel like mentioning that Ishmael/Queequeg is so beautifully canon it is hardly fic. sdfkljsdfk SO GAY and the guy teaching this class loves it!

and this icon is more appropriate to the Phillips poem

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
no better place to find epic bromance than in old literature! I have not read Moby Dick unfortunately. am currently haphazardly pleasure-reading 3 books on and off.

[identity profile] zempasuchil.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
so far I'm inclined to say it's good! I hear it gets really whaley, though. I am prepared to put up with that for Melville's style. oooo, pleasure reading! what are you reading?

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
still reading the marx biography. am also reading "the impossible country" by brian hall and "abandon" by pico iyer, both of which I've been reading for aaaaaaages, 'cos i only read them for a couple of pages at a time. they are both wonderfully written and good with little details. "the impossible country" is nonfiction, about the whole Yugoslavia Serb Croat Slovene debacle in the 90s. Part travelogue, part history, mostly told through anecdotes and conversations. It is sharp, self-aware, very funny at parts, heartbreaking at parts. The writer has a good eye for characters and knows how to capture them on the page.

"abandon" is fiction and so beautifully written, about a scholar of Sufism and the strange girl he takes up with and some ancient scrolls he's trying to find. i bought it back during my "omg deserts!" thing.

[identity profile] zempasuchil.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
I keep meaning to find some pico iyer and read it! and the marx bio! it seems like this will happen summer at the soonest. oh well, such is school. Man, these all sound like really really exciting good books - I am jealous :))

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2009-04-10 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
pico iyer is the beat of my heaaaaarrrrt

[identity profile] lazaefair.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Argh, I submitted on the poll before I could link to an awesome poem.
I really like William Carlos Williams' "This Is Just To Say" for its spareness and oh-so-reluctant apology.

But the tributes are what make it priceless. Parodies here and here.

Also, Skins fics - I, still having never seen the show, primarily ship Anwar/Maxxie because I've been twisted by fandom over the years into corrupting every platonic man-friendship I ever come across. Plus it's cute and heartwarming.
Unfortunately for me Anwar/Maxxie doesn't show up a lot in fic. :( I have looked. There are exactly two fics in the whole of fandom (two!):
Hilarious Tony/Maxxie/Anwar.
Also funny Maxxie/Anwar drabble.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
thanks! and i was quite glad to see that the second link led me to a whole bevy of Skins drabbles yaaaay. skiiiiiins, i wanna drabble them too! prompt me?

[identity profile] lazaefair.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, how about this: Anwar & Maxxie, friendship (or not), the conversation they have on the busride immediately after the conclusion of season 2.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2009-04-10 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
word, i've written this in my notebook, i'll type it up in a post soon!

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_abulafia/ 2009-04-08 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't smoke cigarettes but I feel that you have asked an important and revealing question. And I think that everyone who would charge money for a cigarette misunderstands the point of smoking, and also the point of life.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Funny, that. In the Philippines it's common to pay for just one cigarette from a street vendor (though not a real store) instead of buying the whole pack, or for just one piece of candy instead of buying the whole bag. It works out for a quick fix.

I've never taken money for just one cigarette, though I have been considering it more these days when people offer. These are money-grubbing times, and the cost of cigarettes in NYC just reached 10 bucks (wtf :().

[identity profile] silentsighs.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Skiiiins! Unfortunately I have yet to find fics that deal with the things I want them to deal with. Like the co-dependency of Tony and Sid (and how that gradually shifts from Sid being the needy one to Tony) or the complexities of Cassie and Michelle's friendship (because they are not that close during the series but Michelle's the one who knows how Cassie's doing in ep 1 and the vid of them dancing about as a bride and groom is the cutest thing) or Chris just being Chris with or without Jal. I also have a hankering for post-accident Michelle/Effy as well as Stonem sibling invincible-ness (or, you know, not all that invincible actually). I like how Effy and Tony look after each other - people seem to sexualise that quite a lot but I don't think it's necessary.

Um, you could consider these prompts if you like.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2009-04-10 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I am waiting for my computer to be fixed to go searching for Skins fics. omg, i cannot wait, for sid/cassie and tony/maxxie and i don't even know.

i have drabbled 3 (sort of) of those, i'll type them up in a separate post!

some random thoughts on skins

[identity profile] marycontraire.livejournal.com 2009-04-13 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, Skins series 1 & 2! Rock the party! I can't even handle my love for this show.

-- MAXXIE & ANWAR. I LOVE THEM. I LOVE THIER FRIENDSHIP. And I totally ship them. Come on, now.

-- CASSIE/SID was totally my OTP in the first series, and I never really got over them, but I must admit that my love for Cassie dwindled a bit. Sid remained awesome to the end. Milkman, indeed.

-- I fell in love with Effy in series one, and nothing she's done since then (and she did some pretty dumb shit in series three) has convinced me to change my mind. She's just so compelling! I have a crush.

-- CHRIS AND JAL. (NGL, I was kind of pissed that she got that abortion. I get it, though.)

-- Tony is a bad-ass.

-- I always hated Michelle.

-- Mr Stonem cracks me the fuck up.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2009-04-13 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yaaaa, I kept on having thoughts like, "Oh no, Cassie, NOT AGAIN. Ah, there she goes..."

I'm currently watching the first episode of series 3. I have my reservations that they've entirely changed the cast around, but we'll see.

I felt like I should have hated Michelle, and that I can see the reasoning behind the hate were I to hate her, but I can't help but ADORE EVERYONE. D: :D

CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS. JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL.

[identity profile] marycontraire.livejournal.com 2009-04-13 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
I liked series three, but it was very uneven. Some episodes were fantastic, and some were mediocre. I really did not like Cook's episode, Thomas's was fun. The really good ones (in my humble opinion) are Pandora, Naomi, and Effy-- very emotionally honest and with that highly watchable Skins pacing and humor. I think those might even have surpassed parts of the first two series. But, again, overall it's quite uneven. Also, watch out for callbacks to the old cast. They are frequent.
Edited 2009-04-13 04:48 (UTC)