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Las ([personal profile] whynot) wrote2009-12-11 12:22 am

the one hand vs. the other hand

The following might also be an interesting topic for my anthro final paper. (Oh god, I gotta choose a topic and send an outline to my prof before the week is out.)

The Sociological Images blog recently posted about the relativity of feminist liberation that touches on some of the problems with how feminism is discussed and articulated. The post is specifically about women-only taxi services that have begun popping up in Dubai, Mexico, Moscow, and, weirdly, the UK. In Manila, the MRT (our El/subway) has a women-only train car. I heard (...but can't find online confirmation) that it was women passengers themselves who requested this service because they kept getting groped on the train, especially during rush hour.

On the one hand, the pro-womanness of such a service is superficial. It's still demeaning, and it reinforces gender binaries and perpetuates an unjust system. Well, yes, ideally we would be living in a world where you don't need a women-only taxi service, but on the other hand I'm hesitant to sacrifice the security of these women for the sake of ideology. Just like you can't juxtapose one country's democracy wholesale on another country's, you can't juxtapose one country's feminism wholesale either. It has to grow organically from within (and also a little bit without). But to go back to the one hand, is more segregation really the way to promote this?

The problem with these services is that they're end-of-the-pipe solutions. They treat the symptoms of misogyny instead of the causes. They send a message to the men that they can continue to act like misogynists because we can always remove ourselves from the situation and it's our fault if we don't. But on the OTHER hand, sometimes when people talk about bringing some good ol' women's lib from countries where it's more commonplace to countries where it's less commonplace, it reminds me of the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" mentality of economic conservatism: "You don't need special treatment, you just need to be strong!" That's all well and good, but the bootstraps of women in, say, the USA are already pretty high up compared to the bootstraps of women in the Philippines. And these boots, they smell like White Woman's Burden. Equality among women != sameness among women.

I think women should be wary of insisting on solidarity based on what we are not i.e. men. We're not just not-men. However, sometimes the rhetoric of being not-men overpowers the diversity of women's situations around the world, reducing women in quote unquote less liberated countries to the subaltern of the subaltern. And yeah, that's one of the flaws of the women-only taxi service, in that it is totally based on being not-men. If the way women protect themselves in other countries is disagreeable to us, should we take their protection away because it's bad for their feminist agenda? For WHOSE feminist agenda? Can you use 'unfeminist' means like these taxis to further feminism? Or is that too much like fighting for peace and fucking for virginity?

And, I dunno, what if the woman trying to hail a women-only taxi is escorting her ailing grandfather or something?

The Huffington Post offers a stronger stance on why these women-only taxis are questionable indeed. Interestingly, the HuffPost article was written by a man, whereas the Sociological Images post was written by a woman. I have my reservations about these taxis, but I also have my reservations about dismissing the idea outright. At the very least, it provides a safe space. It reminds me of - and I wish I have the link - how some people were trying to make an organization/support group for Hispanic gays, and a non-Hispanic gay was like, "But what for? We're ALL gay!" But what he was really saying is "We're ALL not straight", which isn't the same thing.

[identity profile] hivesofactivity.livejournal.com 2009-12-11 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
There's other women-only cab services in the UK - the one I know of is Ladycabs in North London, which has nearly all women drivers ("nearly" because the boss's husband is also a driver - but you can specify you don't want him!), but which will take both men and women, and, crucially, unsupervised children. I agree with the comments above - they aren't a solution to the core problem, but they are useful in the interim. (And here I go, being all optimistic, using words like 'interim'...)

There's also a, hrrrm, very difficult ad poster campaign all over London at the moment, by Cabwise, the government cab licencing authority, warning women not to take unlicenced cabs. Basically it's panicky text and a close up of a woman's face as she's being attacked (if anyone googles it, use caution as it could well be triggery, and there's a Cabwise video ad from a couple of years ago, which also comes up on google, which is nigh-unwatchable for the same reasons). I can see what it's trying to do, but it's very much a "don't do this or you might be raped" ad, placing the onus on women to avoid particular situatuons, when I've yet to see a Cabwise "guys - don't rape women" ad.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2009-12-13 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Is North London a particularly shady area? Who are the people who started this service up?

I've yet to see a Cabwise "guys - don't rape women" ad.
Yeah, that's the thing. A lot of the education campaigns are aimed at woman with a 'grab your agency!' message, but what about the education campaign targeting men?

[identity profile] hivesofactivity.livejournal.com 2009-12-13 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
There are bits of North London that do have fairly high levels of crime - but there's areas like that all over London, often just a street away from much posher, lower-crime bits. Unlicenced taxis are a real problem, with drunk or high people - including many lone women - falling into random, unchecked strangers' cars in the middle of the night when they come out of clubs. When I lived in a shared house in Brixton in South London about 12 years ago, one of the other people there worked illegally as an unlicenced taxi driver. The particular problem with him wasn't that he was setting out to attack women, he just wanted to earn a few quid. But he was a crack addict, who had lost his driving licence due to drunk driving, and his car was untaxed, un-MOT'd and had no insurance, so was horribly unsafe for a bunch of other reasons - and yet there he was in his car outside the clubs every weekend, neatly illustrating how easy it was for totally unsuitable people to get regular taxi work.