whynot: etc: oh deer (you and your silly kuhniggets)
Las ([personal profile] whynot) wrote2010-06-17 11:59 am
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why are you hitting yourself stop hitting yourself

One of the many things that makes me :-/ about the J2 BB Haitifail is the following reaction to other people's frustration:

"If this has taught me anything, you shouldn't even try to write POC."
"Yup. This is definitely what I've taken away from the whole clusterfuck."


It is pretty saddening (if unsurprising) that concern over misrepresentation only gets you promises of non-representation. What this attitude is implying is that minorities are to be blamed for their own erasure. If only we had presented our case differently! If only we hadn't got too angry! These race/culture discussions aren't meant to be roadblocks. If anything, they're speed bumps: they make you slow down for the good of everyone and actually make you watch where you're going. Voila relevant links:

Three Forms of Rhetoric Which Are Obnoxious
"Damned if you do, damned if you don't." Please please please please retire this phrase! ... A better way to phrase the feeling of frustration at being unable to get an advance guarantee of never being criticized by POC is this: "No writer is immune from criticism."

I really like this one: Being An Imaginary Conversation Which I Have Been Silently Holding in my Head With Many, Many People I Have Seen Around the Internets Lately
IMAGINARY DAVID RAVINE: So you're saying that this is how to be smooth and avoid a flamewar?
ME: No! I am saying that this is how to be a dipshit and still avoid a flamewar!


This one is more a general how-to than specific to the topic at hand, but still awesome: Derailing for Dummies.
The best part is, you don't even have to be a white, heterosexual, cisgendered, cissexual, upper-class male to enjoy the full benefits of derailing conversation! Nope, you can utilise the lesser-recognised tactic of Horizontal Hostility to make sure that, despite being a member of a Marginalised Group™ yourself, you can exercise a privilege another Marginalised Group™ doesn't have in order not to heed their experience!
mumblemutter: ([etc] back off!)

[personal profile] mumblemutter 2010-06-18 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
There's also something about those "NO *YOU'RE* RACIST FOR IMPLYING I COULD JUST GOOGLE AN ENTIRE CULTURE" comments that's completely hypocritical and infuriating in that it is not exactly *wrong*, but nobody even suggested you should write about an entire culture (that is foreign to you) in your porn? Just maybe consider including some people in there that aren't white and try not to piss on their heritage? Surely that's not too much to ask? I mean, Christ, the fact that "Abraham" should not just represent some Haitian something or other is kind of the point.

...anyway.

(Ahem yes, that makes sense. We're ttly working on enforcing our move to DW too, let's see how that works out.)