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Talking animals, bit of a paper office, and splashes of incest.
narnia // My Peter/Susan fic is mired in bathos :(. Now is the time to distract myself from it so I can come back with a clear head. The distraction should include napping, but I'm hopped up on caffeine, so I'll just chill here and wait for it to wear off.
his dark materials // The reason I am sleep-deprived and hopped up on caffeine:
+ LEE SCORESBY! NOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! I loved you best. How will I get my fill of cain'ts and gits now?!? Serafina, since you are pretty much the shit, you should do something about this in The Amber Spyglass. You probably will.
+ I wanna hang out with Mary Malone.
+ Those kids at Citagazza remind anyone else of Lord of the Flies?
+ This book is more compelling than The Golden Compass, I say because of the appearance of Will. He makes Lyra more likable because he reins her in from being too obnoxious. Comparing Will and Lyra also makes it easier to think about the daemon issue. I think it's kind of an inspiring and reassuring message that, in our world, we aren't really alone either -- our daemons are inside. Don't despair, children! You don't need no stinkin' talking beast! Though it would be nice.
+ But, still, I reckon Lyra being obnoxious could be caused by the daemons. I can see how never having to really be alone would give you the energy and confidence to be larger than life and a borderline Mary Sue.
+ Wow, people would be able to write the weirdest and least explicit pornfic ever just by describing how daemons interact.
+ Propaganda EVERYWHERE. This book's even more anti-religion than the first one. Because I'm vulnerable to my biases like everyone else, I was thrilled at the prospect of killing the Authority and suddenly this was one of those stories (like Good Omens) that I wish were real because the propaganda spoke to my gut. Then I realized God was already dead, so that's alright then. (...Maybe? Dunno. I am actually a ballsless agnostic.)
+ Wow, unpleasant injuries/deaths (among other things) abounds. And so much of them crammed into a series marketed to children, which I've never seen before, at least not explicitly. Crushing kids beneath a metal staircase. Kids shooting kids with guns. Kids hitting other kids as hard as they can with metal rods. Stealing and lying being good things. Being a murderer being a good thing. (The word 'murder' is key. Harry Potter and Peter Pevensie didn't 'murder', for example.) And hey, I'm all about the moral gray area, but I've never seen it dealt with so explicitly in a fantasy series with prepubescent protagonists. Usually those are all like, "We will not stoop to the level of our enemies," all sanctimonious, but Will and Lyra are all lizard hindbrain like, "Oh, we'll stoop, alright." I respect Pullman for adamantly writing for no age group, but it's still a little jarring.
And now for those recs.
Recognition by Lizzen. Spirited Away. Chihiro/Haku, PG. Post-movie. And also champions environmental studies! Officially the first anime fandom I recced. No quote, it's short and the lines all flow together.
Disco Night by Sloane. The Office. Jim/Pam, PG13. No talking animals? What?
Then Dwight shows up in a shiny short-sleeve turtleneck with little holograms on it, and it’s hard to be upset when something so wordlessly awesome exists in the world.
OKAY GUESS WHAT FANDOMS THESE NEXT ONES ARE.
Sea Legs by st_aurafina. Eustace, Edmund, Lucy. G. Loads of fic deal with the Pevensies returning from Narnia, but I haven't ever seen one that deals with Eustace coming back until I found this one. Kickass.
Still, in his letters, Edmund has been very enthusiastic about the visit - wartime has decimated the holiday trade and the beach is nearly empty, but there is a little boat for hire that will be perfect for the three of them to sail.
Many and Beautiful Things by loki1013. Permutations of Caspian, Susan, and Peter, PG13. References The Last Battle. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOD YOU GUUUUUUUUUUUYS if you only read one fic from this post read THIS ONE. It BROKE ME. No quote, it's all good, trust me.
The Logistics of Victory by Dee. Peter/Caspian, PG... say, 15? Whatev. Post-Beruna. Made of yay!
He looked over his shoulder at the river, distracted by an idea, and already tugging at the buckle of his swordbelt as he turned back to Caspian. "Fancy swimming it again?"
Cold Beauty by Angel. Jadis/Susan, PG13. What if Susan had gone in instead of Edmund? Warning: creepy pedo shit.
No one comes to Susan's bed after curfew, nor does she slip out for the taste of girlish kisses. Instead, she remembers.
These Last Golden Days of Summer by bedlamsbard. Golden Age fic, PG. The Pevensies in the eyes of their subjects. Impressive subtleties!
Faun wine isn’t brewed, and Tilse’s is hardly new – his father put it away before he went off to war – but no one corrects a queen of Narnia.
Further Up and Further In by Kyra Cullinan. Tirian, Jewel, and the development of theirTwoo Wuv friendship. PG. If Jewel were human, Tirian and him would be slashed nigh unto heaven. Actually, I wouldn't put Tirian/Jewel past fandom. There's gotta be at least one, right? Let you show me it! Come on, Narnia fandom, don't let yourself be outperved by Harry Potter's.
Tirian was a little daunted by everything he knew about unicorns, how wise and pure and noble they were, but he pressed on. "Do you like apples?"
his dark materials // The reason I am sleep-deprived and hopped up on caffeine:
+ LEE SCORESBY! NOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! I loved you best. How will I get my fill of cain'ts and gits now?!? Serafina, since you are pretty much the shit, you should do something about this in The Amber Spyglass. You probably will.
+ I wanna hang out with Mary Malone.
+ Those kids at Citagazza remind anyone else of Lord of the Flies?
+ This book is more compelling than The Golden Compass, I say because of the appearance of Will. He makes Lyra more likable because he reins her in from being too obnoxious. Comparing Will and Lyra also makes it easier to think about the daemon issue. I think it's kind of an inspiring and reassuring message that, in our world, we aren't really alone either -- our daemons are inside. Don't despair, children! You don't need no stinkin' talking beast! Though it would be nice.
+ But, still, I reckon Lyra being obnoxious could be caused by the daemons. I can see how never having to really be alone would give you the energy and confidence to be larger than life and a borderline Mary Sue.
+ Wow, people would be able to write the weirdest and least explicit pornfic ever just by describing how daemons interact.
+ Propaganda EVERYWHERE. This book's even more anti-religion than the first one. Because I'm vulnerable to my biases like everyone else, I was thrilled at the prospect of killing the Authority and suddenly this was one of those stories (like Good Omens) that I wish were real because the propaganda spoke to my gut. Then I realized God was already dead, so that's alright then. (...Maybe? Dunno. I am actually a ballsless agnostic.)
+ Wow, unpleasant injuries/deaths (among other things) abounds. And so much of them crammed into a series marketed to children, which I've never seen before, at least not explicitly. Crushing kids beneath a metal staircase. Kids shooting kids with guns. Kids hitting other kids as hard as they can with metal rods. Stealing and lying being good things. Being a murderer being a good thing. (The word 'murder' is key. Harry Potter and Peter Pevensie didn't 'murder', for example.) And hey, I'm all about the moral gray area, but I've never seen it dealt with so explicitly in a fantasy series with prepubescent protagonists. Usually those are all like, "We will not stoop to the level of our enemies," all sanctimonious, but Will and Lyra are all lizard hindbrain like, "Oh, we'll stoop, alright." I respect Pullman for adamantly writing for no age group, but it's still a little jarring.
And now for those recs.
Recognition by Lizzen. Spirited Away. Chihiro/Haku, PG. Post-movie. And also champions environmental studies! Officially the first anime fandom I recced. No quote, it's short and the lines all flow together.
Disco Night by Sloane. The Office. Jim/Pam, PG13. No talking animals? What?
Then Dwight shows up in a shiny short-sleeve turtleneck with little holograms on it, and it’s hard to be upset when something so wordlessly awesome exists in the world.
OKAY GUESS WHAT FANDOMS THESE NEXT ONES ARE.
Sea Legs by st_aurafina. Eustace, Edmund, Lucy. G. Loads of fic deal with the Pevensies returning from Narnia, but I haven't ever seen one that deals with Eustace coming back until I found this one. Kickass.
Still, in his letters, Edmund has been very enthusiastic about the visit - wartime has decimated the holiday trade and the beach is nearly empty, but there is a little boat for hire that will be perfect for the three of them to sail.
Many and Beautiful Things by loki1013. Permutations of Caspian, Susan, and Peter, PG13. References The Last Battle. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOD YOU GUUUUUUUUUUUYS if you only read one fic from this post read THIS ONE. It BROKE ME. No quote, it's all good, trust me.
The Logistics of Victory by Dee. Peter/Caspian, PG... say, 15? Whatev. Post-Beruna. Made of yay!
He looked over his shoulder at the river, distracted by an idea, and already tugging at the buckle of his swordbelt as he turned back to Caspian. "Fancy swimming it again?"
Cold Beauty by Angel. Jadis/Susan, PG13. What if Susan had gone in instead of Edmund? Warning: creepy pedo shit.
No one comes to Susan's bed after curfew, nor does she slip out for the taste of girlish kisses. Instead, she remembers.
These Last Golden Days of Summer by bedlamsbard. Golden Age fic, PG. The Pevensies in the eyes of their subjects. Impressive subtleties!
Faun wine isn’t brewed, and Tilse’s is hardly new – his father put it away before he went off to war – but no one corrects a queen of Narnia.
Further Up and Further In by Kyra Cullinan. Tirian, Jewel, and the development of their
Tirian was a little daunted by everything he knew about unicorns, how wise and pure and noble they were, but he pressed on. "Do you like apples?"
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Anyway. There was a line before Lee's battle started that was someting about gazing upon the last landscape they'd ever see, or something like that, and that was when I was all, "WTF WHAT?" and trying to deny that it was going to happen until it did. And yes, omg, he should have called her sooner, but in his defense, I'd forgotten about the flower at that point too, so I wasn't too 'you-could-have-lived-if-you-just-remembered' about it.
I haven't looked at that community yet, only because I don't think I'd ever leave it. And yeah, I see where you're coming from about legit/silliness thing, because once I start thinking about it I get these really cracked out ideas that are probably just me going o_O about the whole thing.
I would imagine (just based on his material) that he was writing for everybody, but in mindset of children's fantasy, which, awesome. Yay for him. I actually have watched a bit of 'The Tribe.' It was on a more obscure delux cable channel, probably a year or so ago.
The witches thing for me is more than Pullman writes them to be such wise, aged creatures, and he pushes their wisdom and whatnot, and then makes them do things that I see going against that description, like when the witch goes into the camp with Mrs. Coulter, or when the crazy Mrs. Parry one shoots John (and yes, I realize that the pride and unforgiveness is also their nature, but if they can't respect that being faithful to another woman is the reason they got turned down, then I almost immediately don't like them. Unless there's some other reason for John to turn her down, in which case my feelings might change). I guess it's more Pullman writing them making too many mistakes too suddenly than a more explicit dislike of them (because yeah, they definitely have their awesome bits). Serafina's still the only one I like, though, regardless.
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Wasn't expecting the bald!
I can see what you mean about the witches. It's frustrating when an author's tell and show don't add up. Like how an author goes "This villain is powerful and cunning!" but then instead of writing someone who is actually powerful and cunning we get, uh, VOLDEMORT, who just loves himself.