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Las ([personal profile] whynot) wrote2008-09-27 01:28 am

MULTIFANDOM POST OF FLAIL

1. Dirty Sexy Money. UGH. I am going through Season 1 of Dirty Sexy Money and I HATE HER. I HATE HER SO MUCH. I'm on Episode 7 and I don't understand why she is being set up to be the forbidden romantic interest of the married main character when there is NOTHING LIKEABLE ABOUT HER. It's just confusing storytelling. I thought Karen was written to be annoying on purpose and that the viewer to hate her, but now she is desired by the moral center of the show? I don't understand why ANYONE would desire Karen Darling, want to redeem her, or write fic about her explaining why she is the way she is. If I look into her head, I would find, "I fail at life because I never had to work at anything."

. The rest of the characters are okay I guess, though I ADORE the twins. (Where is the Jeremy/Juliet fic, guys??) I may or may have not drabbled Jeremy&Juliet when I was bored in class.


2. I kind of miss writing in a fandom that's set in the present day, 'cos then I can just let loose with dialogue and references and not have to check whether they're anachronistic or not. I would maybe minimize moments of "Wait, did I just accidentally write Christian allegory?" I want to write about airport lounges, Greyhound buses, fast food, and falling asleep in front of the TV.

I pretty much should just start writing originals again and write WHATEVER THE HELL I WANT.


3. The Secret Garden. Thoughts on Susan Moody's Return to the Secret Garden are

It was disappointing. I'm not surprised that it is, but I hoped it wouldn't be.

Things I Like
- BOTH times when Mary and Dickon finally have sex. The build-up was more or less effective enough to make me think "OMG JUST FUCK ALREADY!" MARY/DICKON ZOMG.
- Mary being initially confounded by sex
- Mary being disillusioned in India (Basil included)
- Colin having a new aspiration every week

Things That Could've Been Better Handled, But Wasn't, With Less Than Compelling Results
- Sociopolitical commentary on the World Wars and class struggle. She was trying to put The Secret Garden in a context of the British and European politics of its day. I'm down for putting canon in a new context, 'cos hey, that's what fic is all about, but Moody's execution just felt forced.
- Barney whathisname, the soldier who had a crush on Mary's mother, channeling his lust to Mary. Again with the feeling forced.
- Mary's child being a Marty Stu, ugh.

Good ideas but inconsistent writing quality. 6.5/10!

. In short, MARY/DICKON 4EVAAAAAAAAA. To conclude,

It was nearly three months since the telegram had arrived announcing that Dickon was missing and there had been no further news. She knew Colin was still mourning him: so, indeed, was she. But she needed a change. Everything had been so dreary while the war dragged on. For far too long she had felt as old as the moors round Misselthwaite, and the limited chances for gaiety offered by the Yorkshire social scene only added to that feeling. But she was nearly nineteen and she wanted to be young, to be like the girls whose exploits she read about in the society pages of the newspapers, the girls who were rebelling against the stuffy conventions of their parents, who belonged to the smart sets, like those who surrounded the Prince of Wales or Lady Diana Cooper. She longed to smoke Turkish cigarettes and bob her hair and dance till dawn in smoky basement night-clubs. When she had finally understood that Dickon was lost to them, she had known she would mourn him for the rest of her life. Even now, she was pierced by sadness as sharp and cold as an icicle whenever she thought of him. And yet, with the war over, life was slowly beginning to return to some kind of normality, and with a certain surprise, she was realizing that there were limits to how much time a person could spend being grief-stricken.
OH SUSAN.


4. Heroes. I just watched the new Heroes and MAN, everyone is TOTALLY SEXING EACH OTHER. TOTALLY. Especially all of the Petrellis (including Claire), though that's nothing new. I mean, it pretty much begins with Peter and Claire sexing, but eventually it gets to Peter and Nathan sexing because IT ALWAYS DOES.

I approve of Mohinder/Maya. I APPROVE OF MOHINDER. Someone break me off a piece of THAT, omg. I always knew you had it in you. You were already too pretty for words, AND THEN YOU TOOK OFF YOUR SHIRT. AND I DIED. MOHINDER, YOU ARE TOO HOT FOR WORDS. Also, your superpower is that you are Spiderman, lolz.

OH, AND THEN THERE IS HIRO AND ANDO. Who compare themselves to Batman and Robin. I MEAN, COME ON.

Everyone on Heroes <333333333!!!! Except Claire, who is dumb as a post.

, yeah. I'm tempted to get sucked into the Heroes fandom, but what I REALLY should be doing is homework.

[identity profile] alice-pike.livejournal.com 2008-09-27 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
2. That's what I liked about Supernatural. While there're still plenty of things I have to be aware of, it was nice not worrying about whether or not something is either British enough or antiqued enough. I still haven't really written much in Narnia with the actual Pevensies (at least while in England) since nothing I write feels dated correctly.

3. I keep meaning to read The Secret Garden. I bought a copy, and everything. :/

4. I started watching the first season of Heroes over the summer with one of my friends who's into it, and the whole time I was like, "Nooo, I have to go back to school in a month!" Seriously, I have no time to get into new fandoms, and I only ended up watching like, four episodes. It's still really tempting, though.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2008-09-27 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The book has this OH HOW JOLLY tone to it the way the Narnia books do too. Have you watched the movie of it that came out in the 1990s? Very 1990s in that it's a bit angstier than the book (though this is not saying much), and liberal amounts of Colin/Mary/Dickon cuteness.

OH IT SO IS. Tempting, that is. And it's like, X-Men for the new generation, or something. A motley crew with superpowers and questionable implications. I can love it if I really want to. BUT DO I WANT TO??

[identity profile] lettersandliars.livejournal.com 2008-09-28 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I really need to read Return to the Secret Garden. Assuming I haven't completely forgotten the first one.

I APPROVE OF ANYTHING THAT GETS MOHINDER SHIRTLESS, OKAY. Heroes is amazing. Hiro and Ando just make me want to hug them sososo hard. I AM SO PSYCHED FOR MRS. PETRELLI AND ELLE AND SYLAR, I CAN'T EVEN.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2008-09-28 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
have you watched the 1990s movie of the secret garden?

there is another one i want to read called "till the seas run dry" and i hear that one is better written. SECRET GARDEN SEQUEL PARTY. this other one is harder to find though. and it's not like i don't have enough to read now anyway... BUT IT WOULD BE NICE. OH MY SECRET GARDEN OT3.

TOTALLY TOTALLY. Mrs Petrelli is some fucking awesome shit. And Nathan going off the deep end, oh my heart! AND THE FUTURE WHERE ROCKS FALL EVERYONE DIES. omg omg.

....MOOOOOOOOOOOHIIIIIIIIINDERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. COME INTO MY BED.

[identity profile] lettersandliars.livejournal.com 2008-09-28 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
So I just googled the other sequel because I have no life, and there was one hit on amazon and it was for $44. CRAZYYY.

Not only have I seen it, I own it in a box set with A Little Princess. There is no out-dorking me.

WHILE I WAS WATCHING THE PREMIERE, I GOT A REALLY STRANGE URGE TO WRITE MRS. PETRELLI/ELLE AND I KIND OF LAUGHED AT THE ABSURDITY OF MYSELF. Ahahah I didn't realize that Nathan was going crazy until he did, pretty much. I fail. FUTURE!PETER'S SCAR IS HOT.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
my favorite part is when mrs. medlock is PROFESSOR MCGONAGALL. okay not really, but when i rewatched it this summer this made me all like, "XD!!"

a little princess! SARA/BECKY FOREVERRRRRRR. ah, children's literature, SO RIPE FOR SUBVERSION. and we've not yet begun talking about the swiss family robinson, let alone peter pan.

HARRY'S PETER'S SCAR IS INDEED HOT. i can't tell if lindermann is a figment of nathan's imagination or if he's just invisible. i guess that's the confusing effect they're going for, though. i kinda wanted to write peter/claire, though claire annoys me. it would go along the lines of future!peter yelling at her for being stupid, and then she whines about just wanting to be human and loved but also a hero. and then they have sex. and when mohinder and maya started groping on each other i was like, "woah, i may just need to fic their sex-having." AND THEN I DIDN'T HAVE TO.

gotta say though, the whole "some people are just evil" line ticks me off. it's like, how simplistic.
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[identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com 2008-09-28 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
And this is why AUs were invented! And why some of us write crazy werewolf stories that have (oh god oh god) developed not only a plot, but a sequel. (Okay, that is going in the original fiction pile. Played with it in Narnia, going to develop it as an original if I develop it at all. WEREWOLF MURDER MYSTERY ahahaha. *cough*)

Although. I kind of want to write American characters again just so the Britishness does not break my brain. *shrug* Although in this case I just smile, clench my teeth, and go off to write crack.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
i say this with <3: you are like so far gone, i don't even know. canon has been left far behind and, when you turn around, there is only peter on a murderous rampage as far as the eye can see.

no dealer so generous as your dealer! GIMME DAT SHIT.
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[identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Darling, this is when you know I've really gotten into a fandom. Back in The Day, I had bundles and bundles of CSI:NY AUs, including the AU where they traveled through a quantum mirror to MORE AUs.

*eyes ceiling* Today -- no, yesterday -- I found myself wondering what PC would have been like if Caspian was a girl, and then I realized we wouldn't have PC, because Miraz would have no reason to have her killed. He would have just waited for his son to grow up and then married Caspiana to his kid (or maybe not waited for his son to grow up; you know how history is. He could have been the littlest groom!). Except for Cornelius, who feels that he can use ancient Narnian law that says women can in fact inherit and can even sit on the throne, using Queens Susan and Lucy as an example. So he spirits Caspiana away, and then she is found by the Narnians, who are all, "Dude, a Telmarine chick! ...what do we do with her?" Meanwhile, the Telmarines are all, "Oh, no, we need the princess back!" And Caspiana (Caspia? Or would she still be just Caspian?) should probably eventually blow the horn at some point, only if the Pevensies arrive, Peter's going to completely disregard her because she can't even fight, and then where are they? Bored out of their minds. And no sex, either.

No, girl!Caspian would get us absolutely nowhere.

Then I started thinking about Edmund/Susan.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
caspiANNE? i like caspia. in the badfic version, she would be nicknamed CASSIE. oh i think there would be sex somewhere. there always is. the uselessness of a female and her fuckability aren't mutually exclusive! lessons from college. SIGH.

WHAT IF ASLAN WAS A LIONESS? what would jadis shave and wear around her neck into battle then?? what if lucy was a hermaphrodite?! would she be queen still or king, or what? i lean towards QUING LUCY.

i has ur crack.

Then I started thinking about Edmund/Susan.
hmm, yes, tell me more... *STEEPLES FINGERS*
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[identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
If Caspian was a girl, she would be a damsel in distress. (Oh, lord, why can I not write strong women? Wait.)

*puts the crack away* (Crack is all about CHARACTERIZATION. If one is firmly enough in their characters' heads, they can put them in any situation. This I have learned from SGA fandom, home of the crackiest crack in the known universe. GIRL SCOUT COOKIE AU.)

I have not yet thought of a situation, but it begins with Susan kissing Peter goodbye at the train station when he's getting shipped off for THE WAR. I do not know how this ends in Susan and Edmund having sex, but somehow it does.


[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
GASP. YOU SHOULD WRITE THAT. YES.

AND LIKE she absorbs the headlines about the war, reads as many of the articles about it as she can and still talks about her older brother like he'll be home by christmas. edmund doesn't tell her the statistics of survival in the raf because he knows she knows, wonders at how easily she slips into pretending.

AND in her head she thinks "peter, peter" but it's not his body in her arms, and it hasn't been for a while, and things are changing, always changing.

WHOOPS I PETER/SUSAN-ED.

they didn't have newspapers in narnia and maybe that was a blessing because for all this talk of progress and modernity, susan finds herself a prisoner to the speed of information, bombarded by casualty rates and speeches and photographs and peter's somewhere in the middle of all that. his letters are frustratingly concise and she tries to find him in the propaganda until edmund tugs the paper from her hands or turns the wireless off. some nights she would snap at him for doing so, some nights she is just resigned.

"things are changing," she says, and edmund supposes she's right, though he's not sure whether she's talking about the war, themselves, the world.

AND LIKE "i'm running out of patience with her," he confesses to lucy, who just gives him a Look. purses her lips and rolls her eyes.

EDMUND/SUSAN. alcohol may or may not be involved. not as strong and fragrant as narnian wines, but it'll do, it'll do.
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[identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
ahahaha what do you need me for? and they are both, well, yes, we're saying goodbye to him as he goes off to war, but we've done that a thousand times before. only difference is that this time not a one of us is going with him, and we don't know who's watching his back. but they can't tell their parents back. and edmund sits up nights with his hands buried in his hair, wishing he had peter's back the way he should, the way he always did. there are four of them for a reason.

susan throws a teapot at the wall and it shatters, streaking oolang across the wallpaper and china across the carpet. edmund catches her arms as she sinks down to the floor, the tears running freely down her face for the first time.

he holds her the way she used to wish someone would hold her, after they'd been shoved ingloriously out of narnia and back to the professor's. he kisses her forehead, and she can feel the tension in his body, because -- and she realizes belatedly, she's been selfish, selfish -- peter's his brother too and he's always been there for peter, but this time he can't follow peter to war for another two years, and by then it may be too late.

she kisses him, or tries to, and edmund turns his face away so that her lips brush his cheek instead of his mouth. of course, she thinks in some part of her mind, he's been here with peter. "i want," she tries to say, but the words are tangled up in each other; she doesn't know what language she's speaking.

"what do you want?" edmund says, and his voice is gentle. he's maddeningly calm. she hates him for it, a little bit.

"i want to go home," susan bursts out before she can help herself, "oh, god, i want to go home, i want things to be normal, i want --" she stops abruptly. "you," she finishes eventually, aware of edmund's calm gaze on her. "you're home."

"not quite," edmund replies.

"close enough," susan says, and the bitterness in her voice shocks her.


help help why do my capital letters go away! i need them!

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIL

it's all very well to say home, it's all very well to say love, and live, those big big words, but she doesn't see what things are anymore. just what things are not. the holes in her heart are of a specific shape and they can't get filled quite right. round pegs, square holes.

she shares her cigarettes with edmund, shares walks with him, shares her skin, her flask (it was peter's -- he didn't take it with him to the raf), her lips and occasionally her solitude. they rarely talk about peter anymore and barely even mention narnia, because by now they both know better. there is a time and place for that, a season for all things: someday he will go back to accusing susan of forgetting, but it's obvious to him that right now she's doing nothing but remembering.

ALL YOUR CAPITAL LETTERS ARE BELONG TO MEEEEEE 'cos i've been experiencing a dearth of capitals here myself.

doesn't take much to light my fire

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
SO.

edmund can't stop himself wondering, "does she kiss peter like this? does she let peter touch her like this? does peter leave afterwards or wait for her to fall asleep?" and he suspects that if he were still an adult he wouldn't get caught up in such questions and would be better at taking things for what they are. but he's young again, and here in england there's more of peter's little brother in edmund than there ever was when he had been king edmund of the western wood, duke of lantern waste. and now peter's gone off to war, which isn't unusual, but edmund isn't at his side, which is. with peter gone, the chains of comparison are heavier and more clearly defined. absence has allowed abstraction to solidify, and edmund has in his mind a muddled image of a high king and a pilot and a sword and a gun and a plane and a throne and the way winter melts into spring.

it is not a resentful comparison that he makes -- edmund is merely aware. of his brother, far away. of his sister, entwined around him, making love like they are both someone else.

+

it's like how, back in narnia, he and susan had been the counterweight to peter and lucy's imperious joy. if peter and lucy were waterfalls and bubbling brooks, edmund and susan were deep water, still and dark. in some ways, edmund suspects that he and susan grew up to be too similar to be truly close, but there had been an understanding between them at least. an appreciation of efficiency and having both feet on the ground while lucy laughed barefoot with satyrs and peter walked steeped in glory and living legend.

but they are all growing up again, and this time who knows how they'll turn out.


COULDN'T RESIST.
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Re: doesn't take much to light my fire

[identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
*flails back*


it's funny, isn't it, how intertwined they are with each other. they've all lived in each other's pockets for so long, even when they were leagues away from each other or on opposite sides of oceans, that they know each other, breath and body and soul. but here, in england, that fades, except in all the ways it doesn't.

she knows, and she isn't bitter about it or angry; it is is simply a fact, that it's peter they all revolve around, peter who keeps them together and whole. peter has had his hands on edmund and her hands on him, and now she and edmund are -- together, as if they're trying to fill the hole of peter's absence with their own presence. there are four of them, but lucy has forgotten too much (and susan simultaneously envies and pities her this) and peter is gone with the setting sun and the turning of seasons. summer ended when he left, mouth hard against hers at the train station when their parents weren't looking (or maybe they were; it doesn't matter and she doesn't care), and the irony of it (again; whose joke is it now? their summer, having begun a thousand years ago, is always ending) would make her laugh if she remembered how.

they both have to leave to go to school, and that makes it easier and harder all at once, because most of the other girls know what she means. they have brothers or fathers or sweethearts at war too, and there is an air of waiting. once they're done, they will be part of the war, part of the world.

she comes home for christmas and edmund's there. she kisses his cheek like she would peter's, but edmund turns his face away, expression grim and set. "susan --" he says, and puts the letter in her hand.

it's addressed to him (of course it is; peter doesn't trust their parents and probably never will again. that's gone with their long-ago childhood), and for a moment, looking at it, the letters make no sense. then

your brother is missing as a result of air operations last night

and there's more, but she's too busy screaming to read it.

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[identity profile] bantha-fodder.livejournal.com 2008-10-04 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
but we've done that a thousand times before. only difference is that this time not a one of us is going with him, and we don't know who's watching his back.

<33333333333
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and the last thing written is the beginning OF COURSE

[identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
"peter," susan says suddenly, her voice sharp and bleak with desperation, and when her brother turns toward her, looking faintly inquisitive, she cups a hand around the back of his neck and pulls his mouth down against hers. he braces his hands on her hips as he kisses her back, big and familiar, and susan's distantly aware of edmund moving to block them from their parents' view. the kiss goes on a long time. then someone whistles, and someone else yells, "come on, pevensie! the boat's going to leave without you!" and peter pulls away, cups her face with one hand, hugs lucy, and says something softly to edmund in narnian. edmund catches his hand and kisses his knuckles, quick and fleeting, and susan may be the only one who sees it. then peter's gone.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
ahaha see i thought this was peter about to be shipped off AGAIN, because his plane getting shot down afforded him a leave, but now he's being sent back.
but this works too!

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[identity profile] realpestilence.livejournal.com 2008-10-15 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
*Everything* should end in somebody having sex with Edmund. :)
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[identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com 2008-10-28 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Or she could be a political genius, but I THINK NOT. Just judging from Caspian in canon. Seriously, girl!Caspian's idea of rebellion is probably braiding her hair instead of leaving it down.
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[identity profile] ineptshieldmaid.livejournal.com 2008-10-28 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, it's a tough decision. Hair up, hair down...
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[identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com 2008-10-28 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, I only wear my hair long so I can put it up. I hate having it in my way. Although it's getting long enough that even when it's up it might as well be down...

Tough decisions, you know.

Although. Now I'm seriously (ha hahahahahaha) thinking about girl!Caspian. Wait. Now I'm thinking about Peta/girl!Caspian.

shit.

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