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Las ([personal profile] whynot) wrote2010-08-07 03:40 am

ses larmes éteignent les flammes, libère les âmes, fait renaître Abraham

Life has been crap, but the following things are not:

1. [personal profile] camelotremix/[livejournal.com profile] camelotremix! I cannot resist a remix challenge. I guess it's time to see how much my Merlin mojo has atrophied.

2. [livejournal.com profile] girlsofspn. Doing my bit to put more Anna, Claire, and Becky out in the world. I'm waiting to see what I get for spnrarepairs and castielfest first before I sign up. Perhaps I'll ask for art?

3. "Awesome POC are awesome comment-a-thon" and the DW mirror.

4. SPN 6x03, apparently. Come flail about it with me in the comments! Wild conjecture is encouraged!

5. Five five five, hmmmmm, five. How about telling me a fic in one sentence?

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Re: my reaction to the last couple episodes of S4

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-08-08 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
YES. YES. OH YES. OH WYRM IT MADE ME BOTH HAPPYFACE AND SADFACE TO SEE YOUR ANNA/RUBY DREAMS BECAUSE I KNEW WHAT WAS COMING. Happyface because yay Anna/Ruby! Sadface because aww S4 finale :(. This is what AUs are for, I guess XD. What happens to demons when they die? They don't just go to hell again, no? Do they just... disappear from existence? Is Ruby in some place you can only get to by wormhole?

Ruby's 'reveal' in the S4 finale made me go, "...wut," because I mean!!! I don't feel like the writers have been building to it at all! They pulled this out of nowhere! They pulled this out of their ass because apparently the fanbase hates Ruby? Or something?! Didn't you feel like the natural conclusion of this would be for Ruby to be GOOD and for Dean to realize that he should maybe stop being a judgmental asshole?

On the other hand. I guess I like that Ruby won? :-/ But I feel like this is another trick! Like how were saying Bela's trauma was pastede on yey. Ruby's victory too. Like, "okay we're gonna get rid of these chicks now, but here's a reason why they're also cool". Too little too late, show!

Sometimes I read futurefic written in S4 and it's about Sam/Ruby + Dean/Cas HEAs and it puts such sad hearts in my eyes, Wyrm, oh I wish it could be that way. Ruuuuuubyyyyyyyyyy.

Re: my reaction to the last couple episodes of S4

[identity profile] animus-wyrmis.livejournal.com 2010-08-11 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
They must still exist, because ghosts seem to go On after they get de-ghosted, so...presumably also demons! I mean, if it is impossible to completely kill of a human LIKE I BELIEVE IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO IT TO AN ANGEL OR A DEMON.

Ruby is in the other world! Beyond! You get to it through a gate of ivory or one of horn! Getting down there is easy, it is coming back out that's the difficult part!

Ruby's reveal made me go OMFG YOU ARE SO SHITTING ME. They have built to it NOT AT ALL. Ruby never lied, she never gave us any reason for her to be all pro-Lucifer and pro-apocalypse, her demon blood drug thing was creepy but didn't seem to be doing any harm until SUDDENLY Sam goes all ridiculous and she goes all evil and then MONOLOGUES OVER IT ALL WTF.

AND I thought it dropped the whole "sometimes the monsters are not monsters" plot LIKE A ROCK. It would be like if in HP7 Rowling was like "Psych! Harry was right all along in his belief that Snape was evil!" Um, Dean, MAYBE YOU SHOULD STOP BEING SUCH A BRAT. (I have been told this will get pulled up again with Crowley, with different results? OH GREAT, ANOTHER WHITE GUY, I AM GLAD WE HAVE A WHITE GUY ON THE SIDE OF GOOD.)

My theory, though, is that this was not pro-apocalypse at all. Ruby has her own agenda! She wants to be queen of hell! Who is above her?! Lilith and Lucifer. But she couldn't take out Lucifer while he was locked up, so she kills Lilith and lets him out and quickly monologues her evil: "I am THE EVILEST, my lord! You should totally trust me! I am the Bellatrix to your Voldemort! No one knew I was totally loyal except Lilith, who is conveniently dead so you can't check, so there is no reason to listen to lies about my actually being the Snape to your Voldemort! SO EVIL. SO, SO EVIL."

But that is probably not canon :(, and I totally agree that this is just like Bela. "Here, we killed these ladies so our leads could go have their stories, but have like five seconds of backstory. Oh, and they're both only doing what they do 'cause of a man. What, you don't think that's totally feminist?!" And, okay, she won, but that makes how many ladies in this show who win by...dying for the guys in their lives? Mary, Ellen, Jo, Lilith, Ruby...

:(((( I WANT RUBY TO HAVE A HAPPILY EVER AFTER. I WANT HER TO BE THE CROWLEY TO ANNA'S AZIRAPHALE.

Re: my reaction to the last couple episodes of S4

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-08-12 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
OMG ANNA/RUBY ORPHEUS FUSION!!!!!!!! :DDDDDDDDDDDD

And Anna, after she breaks out of angel prison (lol, thanks Cas D:), goes to get Ruby back because the guys have made such a muck-up of the apocalypse. And the place where Ruby is, where Anna goes, there are ghosts of demons past! Alastair is there! Azazel is there! Lilith! Also she runs into Tessa because Tessa <33.

Yeah this in-show encouragement to support xenophobic instincts is very :-/.

I WANT HER TO BE THE CROWLEY TO ANNA'S AZIRAPHALE.
JFLKJFLKSJFLSJFLJDKJFLDJFLJL

...

LDJOIKQEOEMFMPO:L:FKSDFOKD"LKF:LDAKDL:KA:RLELFP:D:ALD:A:F

I WANT IT SO BAD OMG

Re: my reaction to the last couple episodes of S4

[identity profile] animus-wyrmis.livejournal.com 2010-08-15 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
DOES TESSA PLAY HADES IN THIS. YOU CAN BRING HER BACK BUT NOT IF YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT HER, GEEZ, SHE'S TRYING TO GET CORPOREAL, THERE ARE SOME THINGS A GIRL HAS TO DO BY HERSELF ANNA.

I can't wait to finish so I can write this stuff.

Yeah! Because, like, now it just seems like ALL NONHUMANS ARE EVIL, and also a lot of humans. Well, Cas is nice, and some random ghosts, and that one vampire. Everyone else, though, Dean is justified in hating.

Re: my reaction to the last couple episodes of S4

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-08-17 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
YES

omg her humanity coating her bones again? This is what she was before she was a demon? Complete restoration! But... would that still be Anna's Ruby though? It's the demon that Anna took to. Because if Anna was bringing back Ruby's soul from the underworld... does a demon have a soul? Or is Anna given Ruby's human soul, and then Anna burns it herself to make it the Ruby she knew?

Everyone else, though, Dean is justified in hating.
Pretty much. :-/

Re: my reaction to the last couple episodes of S4

[identity profile] animus-wyrmis.livejournal.com 2010-08-17 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
omfg. Yessss. But then Anna is like I kind of liked you better before :(. Or maybe you can't ever heal a soul by angel/reaper magic, even if you try really hard, and she gets a body back but that doesn't mean she's really human, not anymore.

Or is Anna given Ruby's human soul, and then Anna burns it herself to make it the Ruby she knew?
OMFG ANNNNA. Heartbreak!

D: Where are my shades of grey, show?!