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Las ([personal profile] whynot) wrote2010-06-07 08:53 pm

walk-on parts in the war


PILOT: LOL WAT IS DIS MOOSIC. The music is the only difference as far as I can tell. How does this work, was this meant to be any kind of final draft at all, or was the music just a slapdash placemarker for less lolzy music to be put in later? Sam's walking Dean to the car after he breaks into the apartment, and there are ~ORCHESTRAL STRINGS in the background. Sam and Jess make out to "Boulevard of Broken Dreams", and the young man picks up the white lady to "99 Problems". CUTE, GUYS. Speaking of which, how YOUNG they look! Dean's eyes were like superbig.

MOST INTERESTING THOUGH, is when Sam is at that Halloween party in the beginning, and his friend said something like, "Why doesn't your family know about your pre-law successes?" and Sam replied, "Because, we're not exactly the Bradys."

:-O There he is! There's Brady! And his apparently close-knit family! What, he's totally one of those dudes that goes by his last name. Speaking of demonic possession, right:


THE RAPTURE: Was Amelia already possessed by the time they left the house?! WHEN DID SHE GET POSSESSED. WAS IT BEFORE AFTER HER GOODBYE HEARTBREAK WITH JIMMY? It's gotta be before, right, because soon after the men left, she was whaling on Claire. So AMELIA NEVER REALLY GOT TO SAY GOODBYE AT ALL. The entire time in the car, the demon was laughing at her. Her mouth is saying "I'm not going anywhere without you, Jimmy" and the demon is saying how she'll kill him nice and slow, Claire too, and asks Amelia if she knows just how much blood there is in a human body, if she'd like to see. ARGH. FOR A YEAR NOW, Amelia has been trying to get her life back on track, A YEAR, and then Jimmy comes back and holy shit and then HOLY SHIT, and the next thing she knows her husband is dying. The next thing she knows, her husband is no longer her husband and walking out of her life all over again. fjdslfsd FUCK. NOVAKS. ARGH. CAS, YOU GIANT DOUCHE. NO CLOSURE FOR ANYONE EVERRRRRRR.

Jimmy's "Can I see her?" will never not break me. ;___;


Does that mean it's... maybe it's time, maybe it's time for a mini-picspam of the collateral damage we call the Novaks?

Assume that after each picture is five lines of keysmash from me.

D: #1 -- THE HUG







D: #2 -- CLAIRE USING THE COAT FOR A BLANKET




D: #3 -- POST-DEMONIC SHOWDOWN MOTHER(??)-DAUGHTER MOMENT




D: #4 -- "WE'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT."




D: #5 -- "TAKE CARE OF YOUR MOM."






D: #6 -- TTYL, d00dz!




D: #7 -- Castiel has no time for little girls doubled over in shock.







D: #8 -- THE NEXT THING SHE KNOWS




Okay off to do stuff for real this time.

[originally posted at http://whynot.dreamwidth.org/23849.html | comment count unavailable comments]

hey guess what i could talk about this all day and night and never get tired

[identity profile] gabby-silang.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUGH MY GUTS ON THE FLOOR. MY GUTS ALL OVER THE FLOOR.

Hey, guess what I do when I want to TORTURE MYSELF WITH THE ECSTASY OF TRAGEDY AND ALSO CRY LIKE A CHILD? Watch 4x20. Again.

I always figured that Amelia was possessed pretty much right after the whole killing-your-neighbors incident. There's a pause when they're getting in the car and Dean asks "Where's your wife?" and she runs up from somewhere. Somewhere WHERE SHE GOT POSSESSED.

AUGH the spiritual trauma of your husband and daughter being angelic vessels to some douche angel who ruins your life, and YOU'RE THE ONE WITH A DEMON INSIDE YOU. Nobody ever explains to Amelia how it works. Jimmy tells her that Castiel said he's special, it's in his blood. She's probably gonna live her whole life now thinking it's in her blood to be a demon-host who SHOOTS PEOPLE AND CRACKS WISE ABOUT IT.

OTHER THING THAT KILLS ME: Cas was, by all reports, getting the fear of God beat back into him for most of this. He goes straight from that, directly from that, to telling Jimmy that Of course we keep our promises. Of course you have our gratitude.

I LOSE MY SHIT AT THAT POINT, FRANKLY. On behalf of EVERYONE IN THAT ENTIRE SCENE, I lose my shit. Cas who knows exactly what that gratitude looks like, what it's worth. Jimmy who can barely remember thinking this would be worth it, a grand adventure, a giving over for the sake of every soul in the world, a sacrifice worth making. Right up until there's something behind his little girl's eyes and his wife shot him through the stomach and the first time he can feel his body in nearly a year all he feels is blood pumping out through his fingers.

Oh and hey how Dean, because of everything, of Sam, of this horrifying tableau all around him, does nothing. Stands there. Slackjawed. Because this is what it would be like if they followed up with every single family of every single possessed person they ever saw, spoke to, shot, stabbed, exorcised, anything. This is what the trail they leave behind looks like.
Edited 2010-06-08 01:51 (UTC)

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
OH YEAH THE PAUSE. Shiiiiit THE LAST REAL THING SHE DID WITH HIM WAS REALIZE THAT HE WAS HORRIBLY RIGHT AND GET HER ASS KICKED. CAN YOU IMAGINE, her husband's downward spiral into ~CRAZY and then these heavenly interruptions with such perfect timing as to leave you with the sharpest regret and fear. No explanation, just sudden absence.

Jimmy may have told her to get to Carl and Sally's, but you gotta figure that Amelia believes there's no safe harbor now, since the demon now knows who Carl and Sally are. WHERE IS SHE AND CLAIRE GONNA GO? In a way it only makes sense that she would have Team Free Will's phone numbers and is in contact with them. She is the WIFE OF THEIR ANGEL'S VESSEL AFTER ALL rrrrgggghhhhhjfdshfks CAN CAS NOT SPARE ONE OF HIS THOUSAND EYES TO WATCH OVER THEMMMM? What a trip that would be, hearing your husband's voice twisted over the phone, giving you all sorts of strange instructions and advice. He zaps to where you are and teaches you the Enochian sigils you'll need to protect you and Claire, and Jimmy has always been terrible at languages.

She can't have gone to Carl and Sally's, she can't lead the demons there. WHERE DID SHE GO. MAYBE THE ROADHOUSE. Ellen and Amelia doing tequila shots, and Jo gains a strange creature called a little sister, whom she teaches to shoot guns.

This is what the trail they leave behind looks like.
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[identity profile] deedlit50.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
What a trip that would be, hearing your husband's voice twisted over the phone, giving you all sorts of strange instructions and advice. He zaps to where you are and teaches you the Enochian sigils you'll need to protect you and Claire, and Jimmy has always been terrible at languages.

You pretty much HAVE to write that now. It's practically a law of nature.

[identity profile] gabby-silang.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Ellen and Amelia doing tequila shots, and Jo gains a strange creature called a little sister, whom she teaches to shoot guns.

THIS. THIS THIS. THISSSS THIS. I started at some point a REALLY BORING story about how they shuffle through Amelia's old business school friends around the east coast but this is FAR MORE TOPICAL AND HAS GUNS IN THE HANDS OF A 12-YEAR-OLD.

Holy crap, Amelia and Ellen need to hang out.

SOMETHING FURTHER THAT MURDERS MY VERY SOUL: Jimmy never actually gets to tell Amelia about the whole thing honestly except to SCREAM AT HER TO GET INTO THE PANTRY WHILE HE FINISHED BASHING IN HIS BFF'S SKULL. I mean, there is the fucking heart wrenching "I thought this was important, but I was so stupid" thing (MISHA YOU MOTHERFUCKER YOUR GODDAMN FACE HOW DO YOU DO THAT JFCHRIIIIIST) where he's obviously not talking about the whole psych ward cover story. But, you know, there's no time after that. She doesn't get to demand an actual explanation, and instead listens while the demon just forgives him, while the demon says hey Jimmers, it's all good, I owe you an apology.

HEY AMELIA. NO, YOU DON'T. NO YOU DON'T. YOU DON'T. Some hot young thing named "Castiel" tells him he's so special, but he can only really make a difference if he walks out on his family? And you know, you know the whole promise to keep them safe was a last minute addition, right there on the walkway. YOU DO NOT OWE HIM AN APOLOGY, AMELIA.

That is to say, I'd like her to learn to shoot too.

Also, you are KILLLLLLING MEEEEE: Jimmy has always been terrible at languages. ;_____________;
Edited 2010-06-08 14:32 (UTC)

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-06-11 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I am pretty sure I have read the "Novaks taking refuge in the Roadhouse" fic! I don't have the link saved though, so apparently I didn't find it tooooo memorable.

I reckon after the Harvelles bite it in 5x10, the Novaks take over the Roadhouse. Running a bar wasn't part of Amelia's five-year plan here, but eh, God works in mysterious ways. If there even is a God.

AMELIA OWES NO ONE NOTHIIIIIIIING

Re: hey guess what i could talk about this all day and night and never get tired

[identity profile] deedlit50.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
there's something behind his little girl's eyes and his wife shot him through the stomach and the first time he can feel his body in nearly a year all he feels is blood pumping out through his fingers.

OMG, THAT. THAT exactly! I just about handed Kripke the knife to cut my heart out at that point.

Because this is what it would be like if they followed up with every single family of every single possessed person they ever saw, spoke to, shot, stabbed, exorcised, anything. This is what the trail they leave behind looks like.

I can't believe I never thought about it that way before but you're absolutely right. Gah, i have to go re-watch that episode now.

Re: hey guess what i could talk about this all day and night and never get tired

[identity profile] gabby-silang.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
The abject HORROR in his eyes looking at Cas-in-Claire is L:HSFKhfdsf;hasdf I LOVE IT A LOT.

And seeriously. We get a couple of those follow-ups on a smaller scale in s5 with Meg, and with Jesse's mom, and take all three together and it's just. It paints a really, really awful, scary, disgusting, tragic picture.

Re: hey guess what i could talk about this all day and night and never get tired

[identity profile] 22by7.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
YOUR COMMENT IS MAKING ME WEEP

JFC GABBY

YES YES YES TO ALL OF THIS

Re: hey guess what i could talk about this all day and night and never get tired

[identity profile] gabby-silang.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
OF COURSE


WE KEEP

OUR PROMISES

;_________________;
ext_80109: (SPN: Sam'n'Dean: one of those days)

Re: hey guess what i could talk about this all day and night and never get tired

[identity profile] be-themoon.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
STOP DOING THAT I'M CRYING NOW

FUUUCK

PROMISES

FUCKING ANGELS

I have nothing valuble to add to this conversation

[identity profile] vikki.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
OU'RE THE ONE WITH A DEMON INSIDE YOU. Nobody ever explains to Amelia how it works. Jimmy tells her that Castiel said he's special, it's in his blood. She's probably gonna live her whole life now thinking it's in her blood to be a demon-host who SHOOTS PEOPLE AND CRACKS WISE ABOUT IT.

This is why I desperately need Jimmy to come home and help his wife with PTSD. YESTERDAY.

Re: I have nothing valuble to add to this conversation

[identity profile] gabby-silang.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)
THEY WOULD BE SUCH A MESS, they would be SUCH A MESS.

Jimmy gets paranoid about his body's natural reflexes. Finds his leg bouncing up and down convulsively and is TOTALLY CONVINCED that means he STILL DOESN'T HAVE CONTROL OVER IT. There's always a LIGHT IN THE CORNER OF HIS EYES, but he can't catch it no matter how fast he turns around.

Amelia lives every second with that feeling like there's someone staring at the back of your neck. And if you turn around it'll see you seeing it, and then it's all over. So she just says to herself, mouths it sometimes, don't turn around, don't turn around.

Meanwhile their kid won't hang out with other kids and just talks to her imaginary friend WHO IS CASTIEL.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD:

I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TISSUES FOR THIS.

IF THEY DON'T HAVE PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIA NOW, THEY WILL SOON.

I still like the idea of Castiel being Claire's creeper imaginary friend though :D. The tragiLOL father-figure substitution where it's Cas who has to disapprove of Claire's boyfriends because Jimmy and Amelia are too busy having PTSD. ("Promise you won't smite this one, Cas, I really like him.")

[identity profile] gabby-silang.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
"Promise you won't smite this one, Cas, I really like him."

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Cas the creepy imaginary friend is pretty much my #1 happy place. I don't even. I mean. It's all ADVENTURES and YOU ARE THE MOST SPECIAL GIRL IN THE WORLD and LIES but NOT REALLY and the most fucked up little family unit ever.
Edited 2010-06-08 16:54 (UTC)

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
And maybe she badgers him for answers during tests all like, "Come on, Cas, what's the capital of Nigeria?" "If you actually studied this last night instead of reading up on Aramaic exorcism rituals, you would know." Alternatively, Cas likes to feed her the answers and Claire gets pissed off because she wants to do this on her own.

[identity profile] gabby-silang.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
And the day after Justin Dijullio calls Claire a bitch, he loses his footing on the top of the monkey bars. Breaks his leg in two places. Nobody nearby enough to blame, and he just wails and wails, and Claire leans back against the schoolyard wall, placid. It's not your fault, the school nurse is telling Justin. Wind just picked up real hard just then, that happens a lot in the midwest, you know. Justin just moved here from the east coast and he's been a real brat about it.

from the bowels of gchat

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
22by7: cas doesn’t tell so much as SHOW her calculus
lass: show her calculus!!!!! <333
22by7: yah, i imagine being a many-dimensioned creature lets you visualise/spatialise math in useful ways
22by7: weird things keep happening to claire's would-be-boyfriends and girlfriends
at first it was amusing
lass: YUP YES. he hates that she's growing up, no longer completely his
22by7: oh god i wanna write this story. like you said, it'd start out cute and fluffy, but get suuuuper dysfunctional
22by7: cas is like NO, NO, DON'T GROW UP, YOU CAN'T LEAVE ME, because he's peter pan
lass: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<33333333333333333333333333
flsjflksajf;lskjdlfjls
to live would be a grand adventure. AS LONG AS IT'S WITH CAS, OR ELSE.
22by7: but yknow claire wants concreteness sometimes. she's human enough to want a life built on something more tangible than the song he made up to help her understand the Fibonacci
series.
22by7: and cas, who doesn't need to remember, remembers dean, and he hates it, he hates it, he hates humans, she's not human , why is she doing this
lass: and oh god but she is, and she gets angry at him and he hates it when she is angry, but then she becomes scared of him and he hates it even more when she's scared but he CANNOT HELP HIMSELF
22by7: he takes her on this insaaaaane time travel whirligig tour
lass: it's why she falls asleep in her morning history class,
she's tired from sailing with vasco de gama all night
22by7: isn't this brilliant isn't this BETTER, he thinks, he is grinning, as she's walking down the tongue of a glacier at sunrise, the slow world melting around them

omfgggggggggg U GUYZ

[identity profile] gabby-silang.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
♥___________♥

to live would be a grand adventure. AS LONG AS IT'S WITH CAS, OR ELSE.

THAT IS THE SUMMARY OF THE FIC THAT I ASSUME ONE OR BOTH OF YOU IS WRITING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW. WRITING IT AS I WRITE THIS OBNOXIOUS COMMENT. GET ON THAT SHIT PLZ JFC MY HEART GREW TEN SIZES AND WAS STABBED FIVE TIMES AND LIVES IN FEAR OF EVERYTHING IT LOVES.

Re: from the bowels of gchat

[identity profile] gabby-silang.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
GUYS I'M NOT KIDDING I JUST KEEP READING THIS OVER AND OVER

THE SONG

ABOUT THE FIBONACCI SERIES

JFC

THIS COMPLETES ME. THIS COMPLETES ME. MY LIFE WAS WORTHWHILE BECAUSE I READ THIS.

Re: from the bowels of gchat

[identity profile] 22by7.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
HOW COULD I EVER REFUSE SUCH A HEARTFELT REQUEST FROM ONE SO WONDERFUL?

I am definitely posting some Claire-Cas fic tomorrow. IT MAY NOT BE VERY GOOD but I will postttt.

Re: from the bowels of gchat

[identity profile] lexhibition.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
YOU HAD BETTER

BECAUSE I THINK MY BRAIN ORGASMED FROM READING THIS. LIKE, MULTIPLE TIMES.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
<3333333

Basically Cas is Carol from Where the Wild Things Are! The day after Claire leaves him, an earthquake creates a new crevasse in Byrd Glacier that threatens to crack it in half, and St. Elmo's fire burned for hours around the spires of Chicago's Holy Trinity cathedral. But Cas will get her back, he knows it. She'll take him back, take him in, and then he'll tuck her away soft and sweet in a corner of their mind where the world can't get to her, where she'll be safe.

[identity profile] gabby-silang.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
brb, CRYING FOR YEARS.