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Las ([personal profile] whynot) wrote2010-06-07 08:53 pm

walk-on parts in the war


PILOT: LOL WAT IS DIS MOOSIC. The music is the only difference as far as I can tell. How does this work, was this meant to be any kind of final draft at all, or was the music just a slapdash placemarker for less lolzy music to be put in later? Sam's walking Dean to the car after he breaks into the apartment, and there are ~ORCHESTRAL STRINGS in the background. Sam and Jess make out to "Boulevard of Broken Dreams", and the young man picks up the white lady to "99 Problems". CUTE, GUYS. Speaking of which, how YOUNG they look! Dean's eyes were like superbig.

MOST INTERESTING THOUGH, is when Sam is at that Halloween party in the beginning, and his friend said something like, "Why doesn't your family know about your pre-law successes?" and Sam replied, "Because, we're not exactly the Bradys."

:-O There he is! There's Brady! And his apparently close-knit family! What, he's totally one of those dudes that goes by his last name. Speaking of demonic possession, right:


THE RAPTURE: Was Amelia already possessed by the time they left the house?! WHEN DID SHE GET POSSESSED. WAS IT BEFORE AFTER HER GOODBYE HEARTBREAK WITH JIMMY? It's gotta be before, right, because soon after the men left, she was whaling on Claire. So AMELIA NEVER REALLY GOT TO SAY GOODBYE AT ALL. The entire time in the car, the demon was laughing at her. Her mouth is saying "I'm not going anywhere without you, Jimmy" and the demon is saying how she'll kill him nice and slow, Claire too, and asks Amelia if she knows just how much blood there is in a human body, if she'd like to see. ARGH. FOR A YEAR NOW, Amelia has been trying to get her life back on track, A YEAR, and then Jimmy comes back and holy shit and then HOLY SHIT, and the next thing she knows her husband is dying. The next thing she knows, her husband is no longer her husband and walking out of her life all over again. fjdslfsd FUCK. NOVAKS. ARGH. CAS, YOU GIANT DOUCHE. NO CLOSURE FOR ANYONE EVERRRRRRR.

Jimmy's "Can I see her?" will never not break me. ;___;


Does that mean it's... maybe it's time, maybe it's time for a mini-picspam of the collateral damage we call the Novaks?

Assume that after each picture is five lines of keysmash from me.

D: #1 -- THE HUG







D: #2 -- CLAIRE USING THE COAT FOR A BLANKET




D: #3 -- POST-DEMONIC SHOWDOWN MOTHER(??)-DAUGHTER MOMENT




D: #4 -- "WE'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT."




D: #5 -- "TAKE CARE OF YOUR MOM."






D: #6 -- TTYL, d00dz!




D: #7 -- Castiel has no time for little girls doubled over in shock.







D: #8 -- THE NEXT THING SHE KNOWS




Okay off to do stuff for real this time.

[originally posted at http://whynot.dreamwidth.org/23849.html | comment count unavailable comments]

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Jimmy kissing the top of his daughter's head will never not break my heart.

Oh, God.


If I didn't have twelve thousand fics I needed to write already, I would totally do something about the Novaks.

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[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Jimmy kissing the top of his daughter's head will never not break my heart.
GOD, IKR. Now every time I need a good cry, I can stare at picture 1D until my heart reflects his face.

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Absolutely.

"Here, Misha, have this blunt knife. Now please STAB ME IN THE CHEST WITH IT."

Guh.

[identity profile] marycontraire.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
SADJFALSDFNSLDVKAWOERJSFD RAPTURE. MISHA COLLINS BROKE MY HEART INTO A MILLION PIECES IN THAT EPISODE. AND THE GIRL WHO PLAYED CLAIRE WAS FANTASTIC. THAT POOR BABY. I CAN'T BELIEVE CASTIEL WOULD POSSESS HER. WHAT A GIANT DOUCHE.

(BRB CRYING.)

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
GOD, SREIOUSLY. And the more I think about the parallels between vessel consent and sexual consent, I am D: even more. NOVAKS, my favorite one-off characters to be overinvested in AND ESPECIALLY CLAAAAAAIIIRE.

hey guess what i could talk about this all day and night and never get tired

[identity profile] gabby-silang.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUGH MY GUTS ON THE FLOOR. MY GUTS ALL OVER THE FLOOR.

Hey, guess what I do when I want to TORTURE MYSELF WITH THE ECSTASY OF TRAGEDY AND ALSO CRY LIKE A CHILD? Watch 4x20. Again.

I always figured that Amelia was possessed pretty much right after the whole killing-your-neighbors incident. There's a pause when they're getting in the car and Dean asks "Where's your wife?" and she runs up from somewhere. Somewhere WHERE SHE GOT POSSESSED.

AUGH the spiritual trauma of your husband and daughter being angelic vessels to some douche angel who ruins your life, and YOU'RE THE ONE WITH A DEMON INSIDE YOU. Nobody ever explains to Amelia how it works. Jimmy tells her that Castiel said he's special, it's in his blood. She's probably gonna live her whole life now thinking it's in her blood to be a demon-host who SHOOTS PEOPLE AND CRACKS WISE ABOUT IT.

OTHER THING THAT KILLS ME: Cas was, by all reports, getting the fear of God beat back into him for most of this. He goes straight from that, directly from that, to telling Jimmy that Of course we keep our promises. Of course you have our gratitude.

I LOSE MY SHIT AT THAT POINT, FRANKLY. On behalf of EVERYONE IN THAT ENTIRE SCENE, I lose my shit. Cas who knows exactly what that gratitude looks like, what it's worth. Jimmy who can barely remember thinking this would be worth it, a grand adventure, a giving over for the sake of every soul in the world, a sacrifice worth making. Right up until there's something behind his little girl's eyes and his wife shot him through the stomach and the first time he can feel his body in nearly a year all he feels is blood pumping out through his fingers.

Oh and hey how Dean, because of everything, of Sam, of this horrifying tableau all around him, does nothing. Stands there. Slackjawed. Because this is what it would be like if they followed up with every single family of every single possessed person they ever saw, spoke to, shot, stabbed, exorcised, anything. This is what the trail they leave behind looks like.
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[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
OH YEAH THE PAUSE. Shiiiiit THE LAST REAL THING SHE DID WITH HIM WAS REALIZE THAT HE WAS HORRIBLY RIGHT AND GET HER ASS KICKED. CAN YOU IMAGINE, her husband's downward spiral into ~CRAZY and then these heavenly interruptions with such perfect timing as to leave you with the sharpest regret and fear. No explanation, just sudden absence.

Jimmy may have told her to get to Carl and Sally's, but you gotta figure that Amelia believes there's no safe harbor now, since the demon now knows who Carl and Sally are. WHERE IS SHE AND CLAIRE GONNA GO? In a way it only makes sense that she would have Team Free Will's phone numbers and is in contact with them. She is the WIFE OF THEIR ANGEL'S VESSEL AFTER ALL rrrrgggghhhhhjfdshfks CAN CAS NOT SPARE ONE OF HIS THOUSAND EYES TO WATCH OVER THEMMMM? What a trip that would be, hearing your husband's voice twisted over the phone, giving you all sorts of strange instructions and advice. He zaps to where you are and teaches you the Enochian sigils you'll need to protect you and Claire, and Jimmy has always been terrible at languages.

She can't have gone to Carl and Sally's, she can't lead the demons there. WHERE DID SHE GO. MAYBE THE ROADHOUSE. Ellen and Amelia doing tequila shots, and Jo gains a strange creature called a little sister, whom she teaches to shoot guns.

This is what the trail they leave behind looks like.
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[identity profile] deedlit50.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
there's something behind his little girl's eyes and his wife shot him through the stomach and the first time he can feel his body in nearly a year all he feels is blood pumping out through his fingers.

OMG, THAT. THAT exactly! I just about handed Kripke the knife to cut my heart out at that point.

Because this is what it would be like if they followed up with every single family of every single possessed person they ever saw, spoke to, shot, stabbed, exorcised, anything. This is what the trail they leave behind looks like.

I can't believe I never thought about it that way before but you're absolutely right. Gah, i have to go re-watch that episode now.

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[identity profile] 22by7.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
YOUR COMMENT IS MAKING ME WEEP

JFC GABBY

YES YES YES TO ALL OF THIS

I have nothing valuble to add to this conversation

[identity profile] vikki.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
OU'RE THE ONE WITH A DEMON INSIDE YOU. Nobody ever explains to Amelia how it works. Jimmy tells her that Castiel said he's special, it's in his blood. She's probably gonna live her whole life now thinking it's in her blood to be a demon-host who SHOOTS PEOPLE AND CRACKS WISE ABOUT IT.

This is why I desperately need Jimmy to come home and help his wife with PTSD. YESTERDAY.

[identity profile] metonomia.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
NOVAKKKKKKKS. OMG CLAIRE. GAH.

SO HERE'S MY QUESTION - WHEN WAS CLAIRE ANGELIFIED? I think that the moment we see that Amelia is possessed, when she slaps Claire, I sort of think that at that moment Cas is already there. But I dunno. It could be not til she's in the chair. CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAIRE. She always prayed to her guardian angel and then he was there and he saved her Daddy but then he took him away agaaaaaain! And then she and Amelia spend the Apocalypse up in Canada, and when they come back she goes off to college (I dunno how many years in the interim, I've no clue how old she is) and she ends up dropping out to go be a hunter, and eventually she runs into Dean (this is when Ben goes to join her because Claire/Ben, hunters of win is FAB) and finds out that her dad is well and truly gone and the POOR BABY I LOVE HER SO MUCH.

I'm just gonna go sob over these pictures.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
I always thought Cas possessed her after that, like when Claire was passed out. She was passed out when she was tied up in that chair, and I figure Cas just wandered into her dreams and talked to her there. One hell of a conversation that must have been.

I LOOOOOOVE CLAIRE GROWING UP TO BE A HUNTER. I LOVE IT. AND HUNTERSTOGETHER!CLAIRE/BEN IS ANOTHER FAVORITE but especially when also put together with Jesse the Antichrist. Together they are Team Free Will: The Next Generation, and omg look it's my new OT3. Dean and Sam are like the Bobby figures. XD

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[identity profile] deedlit50.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
"Why doesn't your family know about your pre-law successes?" and Sam replied, "Because, we're not exactly the Bradys."

I have the feeling Kripke originally threw that in as a Brady Bunch reference and then later was all "Hey, you know what would be a cool idea? If Sam's best buddy in college was a demon too! Now what should we call him?" And cue light-bulb.

AMELIA NEVER REALLY GOT TO SAY GOODBYE AT ALL.

Oh man, I mean I know that happened but jeez, I just never really thought about how horrible that must have been for her. I guess I was so wrapped up in Jimmy/Castiel's story that Amelia didn't get all that much of my attention. I really want to see her and Claire again now. I hope we'll get to see how they weathered the apocalypse when everything else around them started turning upside down.

Maybe Claire started obsessively following the news reports- hurricanes, flash fires, mass murders, entire town populations vanishing over night- she'd pore over it all, searching between the inky lines and flipping channels for some sign, some hidden message from her father. Not that she expected to see him (see it) standing in a crowd behind a Fox 5 news reporter. She wasn't that silly, no way would it be that obvious, but she knew eventually there would be something. A sign that would help explain his empty chair at the dinner table every night and the muffled sound of her mother crying in her sleep. Claire didn't know what it would be exactly but she knew what it would tell her: that things are going to start getting better now. That it was worth something. And she knew it was up to her to recognize it when it happened.... Only it never did.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
A BRADY BUNCH REFERENCE. Ahahaha of course. Okay NOW I FEEL DUMB. Pop culture fail, self. ahahahaBUTITCANSTILLWORK!??

A sign that would help explain his empty chair at the dinner table every night
Yes this! OMG I VERY MUCH AGREE WITH CLAIRE LOOKING FOR ANGEL PHENOMENA IN DISASTER STORIES. Bolster that with angel lore research and omg Claire. Starts asking questions about angels to their pastor, but they're some pretty weird questions... Gotta wonder how well little Claire Novak has been coping ever since her father ran off... Religion becomes less about faith and more a practical thing that might get her father back.

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[identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
Your pics made me remember [livejournal.com profile] roque_clasique's Restore and now I feel like crying all over again.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
THAT FIC. God, Claire&Cas interaction is my new favorite to think about because maaaaannnnn the baggage on either side, the shifting identities, the interpretation of promises, the loyalties with nowhere to go. Claire and Cas are both lost children, in their way.

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[identity profile] be-themoon.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
HIS FACE HIS FACE HOW DOES HE DO IIIIT.

*flails*

[identity profile] lexhibition.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
omg omg Castiel, Claire, Clairstiel, Ameliaaaaaaa!

When there are rouge angels roaming the earth Castiel will come to Claire as a white light and tell her that she is special, that she can stop this, that all she needs to do is... "Tell me how to kill them," says Claire who is sixteen and sick of her parents crying all the time.

AND THUS NEXT GEN BEGINS.


...omg that forehead pressing pic. it breaks me. brb crying forever and ever and ever because that's all theirs and there's nothing holy about it. ;__;

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 01:42 pm (UTC)(link)
!!!!fjdlsf THAT IS EXACTLY HOW IT HAPPENS. YOU ARE PRETTY GOOD AT COMING UP WITH CANON BEFORE CANON DOES. WHAT IS NEXT MONTH'S WINNING LOTTO NUMBER PLS.

[identity profile] l-a-r-m.livejournal.com 2010-06-11 10:28 am (UTC)(link)
So much love for Claire!

BUT actually actually -- though I can get on board with Cas talking to her while she was passed out -- my question is, did he even need to? Can you give meaningful consent when you're a minor? Perhaps the hearts of children just open up to angelic light and he didn't even have to ask, he just slipped right in.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-06-11 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'd say he still needs to. I don't think angels would go by any human definition of the word consent and what that means. Getting a 'yes' out of a vessel is important to angels, but I don't think informed consent is. In conclusion, angels are creeps.

[identity profile] elsewhere-kels.livejournal.com 2010-06-20 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Have you read this yet?: http://starkraves.livejournal.com/2033.html

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-06-20 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
Yup, I just read this last week. Holy crap I love it, it is extremely satisfying, the most satisfying Novak restoration I've read.

[identity profile] iwrotethissong.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
possibly my favourite part of that entire episode is jimmy saying to claire, 'hi baby.' i always rewind it and watch it again. his shoulders just go down and he looks so relieved and his voice when he says it.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
omg tell me about it, Novak reunionssss. Touching base with his heart and his humanity after a year of an angel hijacking them.