whynot: SPN: angel say wut (OH NO THEY DINT)
Las ([personal profile] whynot) wrote2011-03-15 03:17 am

but also also also THE MAAAAAN WHO WOULD BE KIIIIIIING omgggg :DDDDDD

Mishaleckipalooza sign-ups close on March 20, people! Hop to!

Hop also to [livejournal.com profile] help_japan and [community profile] help_japan, who are now open for offers and bids. I'm offering to make a mix here in any of the following: SPN, Merlin, Narnia, Nikita, The Good Wife, Avatar: The Last Airbender, aaaand non-fannish.

In the Garden by [livejournal.com profile] ygrawn | The Secret Garden | Mary/Dickon | PG | 6100 words
Everything I want from post-canon fic.

Reason in Exile by [livejournal.com profile] takadainmate | Supernatural | Balthazar & Castiel | PG | 1617 words
I just... *____* : Balthazar tells them, "He has changed," and, "I don't know him any more," and thinks that it might even be the truth. ... There is nothing Balthazar can do though except search with the others and not tell them how much Castiel likes high mountains and quiet places.

Miscalculation by luckyraeve | Supernatural | Sam, Dean, Cas | G | fancomic
AHAHAHAHAHAHA


TWO UNEXPECTED DEATHS IN SPN FINALE. OMFG CAS IS GOING TO DIE ISN'T HE. MISHA WANTS OUT BECAUSE HE WANTS TO SPEND TIME WITH HIS KID, DOESN'T HE. CAS IS GOING TO DIE. HE'S GOING TO DIE OH GOD OH GOD. Go on, tell me I'm wrong. TELL ME I'M BEING STUPID, SNAP OUT OF IT LASS.

It's gonna be Cas and Balthazar isn't it. ISN'T IT. THEY'RE GOING TO DIE SACRIFICING THEMSELVES. ONE IS GOING TO LOOK AT THE OTHER AND SMILE AND SAY, "Just like old times, brother," AND THROW THEMSELVES INTO BATTLE. Also death. AND I WILL BE A-CRYYYYYYY AND A-WAAAAAIIIILLLLL and also <3____<3 because what better way for Cas and Balthazar to return to each other and what they used to be? I MEAN, ASIDE FROM MENAGE À WHAT'S FRENCH FOR TWELVE.

LOL NO LASS YOU ARE WRONG, THAT'S NOT ~UNEXPECTED, THAT'S JUST CLICHED.

NO YOU ARE THE ONE WHO'S WRONG BECAUSE MISHA IS SICK OF DOING THE CAS VOICE AND HE WANTS TO HANG OUT WITH HIS NEW BABY AND AND AND AND AND

oh god


Gratuituous GIF of the Day

If you have the version that includes the ass slap, it is your duty to share with the class. ETA: [livejournal.com profile] cugami brings the goods like a boss.

[identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! I haven't seen that pic yet!!!!

Not reading the downer spoiler, but oh dear, they're not going to kill off Cas, are they??????

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
You should see the video it's from. I appear to have lost the link, but basically Jensen says something like, "What were you raised in a barn or something?" and then the GIF happens and then he slaps Misha's ass. THIS CAST.

I THINK SO I THINK SO I THINK SO.

THE END IS NIIIIIIGH!!!11
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[identity profile] qthelights.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
I suspect Cas isn't going to make it out of this season. I'm trying to prepare myself now.. bah.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
MAYBE CAS WILL DIE AND FINALLY SPN WILL GIVE ME BACK MY SANITY AND I CAN FINALLY CONTINUE TO LIVE LIFE LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN BEING maybe.

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[identity profile] hiza-chan.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
...They're gonna kill everyone and set Season 7 in Purgatory. This is the only acceptable answer, because they know that the reason their latest seasons have been so popular is Cas.

Also, the latest episodes make me feel like they're going to off Sam and Dean (again).

But yeah, the line whole new beginning? Season 7 could totally be set in Purgatory. It makes sense. But then, so does the Cas and Balthazar thing, but that's almost expected just because y'know, there are like no characters they can kill off because they already killed everyone off.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
I am in full doomsday prophecy mode. CAAAAAAAAASSSSSS ;_______; I mean, sure, Cas is really popular, but like... I'M POSITIVE MISHA IS OKAY QUITTING BECAUSE HE WANTS TO BE A DAD. I JUST. I THINK SO. I think so.

Season 7 should totally be in Purgatory because I wanna see Alastair and Uriel and Madison and all them monsters again.

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[personal profile] silverusagi 2011-03-15 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
TWO UNEXPECTED DEATHS IN SPN FINALE.

NGL, when I read this, I thought, "Goodbye Cas and Bobby." At least goodbye Cas. Though OTOH, how unexpected is a Cas death at this point? He's died in both S4 and S5 finales.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah but he came back! Cas is notoriously terrible at dying. MAYBE THIS TIME DEATH WILL STICK. But maybe he will just go back to heaven and Jimmy gets to go back to his family. That would be cool. That would be one way to account for the absence of Misha. MAYBE WE CAN HAVE CLAIRESTIEL?

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[identity profile] taelynhawker.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
I am torn between *__________________* and X_______X at the idea of THAT being the two unexpected deaths. Because on one hand I'm all "BUT THEY WOULD GO OUT TOGETHER AND THEN THERE WOULD BE TRUEFORM!CAS AND TRUEFORM!BAL AND HOPEFULLY NOT JUST DEAD!CAS AND DEAD!BAL! BUT EVEN SO THE ANGST AND THE LOOOOOOOOOVE AND THE EMOCEANS WOULD BE AMAZING!" but then I am like "But they would be dead and I would no longer get to see Castiel looking at Balthazar all like 'why are you looking at me like you might eat me' and Balthazar looking at Cas like 'if you gave me two hours and bed you would understand perfectly, brother' and then I would be SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!"

OMFG, FUCK YOU BALTHAZAR FOR MAKING ME THIS INVESTED IN AAAAAAANGELS!!!

Also I read that request for a gif as 'ass lap' and began wondering WHEN Misha sat on Jensen's lap and why wasn't fandom imploding...? LOL.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 10:55 am (UTC)(link)
MAYBE IF I AM SAD NOW, I WON'T BE SAD LATER.

OH GOD JUST KILL ME NOW.

idk I guess maybe it could be Bobby.

...

CAS, BALTHAZAR, YOU BETTER SQUEEZE IN AS MUCH SEX AS YOU CAN NOW.

[identity profile] lexhibition.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 10:56 am (UTC)(link)
YOU ARE SO WRONG

SO FUCKING WRONG. YOU ARE BRIMMING OVER WITH WRONGABILITY, YOU INCREDIBLY WRONG PERSON YOU.

IT WOULD BE REALLY FUCKING UNEXPECTED IF DEAN AND SAM DIED AND STAYED DEAD. SO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THEY'RE GOING TO DIE AND WE'RE GOING TO GET A WHOLE SEASON SEVEN SPENT IN HEAVEN HAVING SHENANIGANS WITH MULTIDIMENSIONAL DICKS. I KNOW THIS BECAUSE SEVEN RHYMES WITH HEAVEN AND BECAUSE CASTIEL AND BALTHAZAR ARE TOO DAMN PRETTY TO DIE. TRUST ME, OKAY, I'M REALLY SMRT.

[identity profile] emerald-embers.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 10:58 am (UTC)(link)
WRONGABILITY

BRB STEALING THIS WORD LIKE IT WAS A GODDAMNED VCR

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[identity profile] emerald-embers.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
My sister's money is on Balthazar and another angel or Balthazar and Bobby, but... I'm with you. I'm thinking Castiel is doomed, and I'm thinking either Castiel and Bobby or Castiel and Balthazar (and god help me, if it has to be one of the two, I want Castiel and Balthazar because OMG BROMANTIC DEATH SCENE I WILL BAWL BUT IT'D BE KIND OF WORTH IT FOR THE ANGST).

I may be wrong! But, y'know, that's what I'm figuring. Unless it turns out there is no season seven, in which case my money's on Sam 'n' Dean.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 11:13 am (UTC)(link)
Which other angel, even? Raph?? o__O

omg if it's Castiel and Bobby, do you think Balthazar is going to stick around to be Cas 2.0?!

Unless it turns out there is no season seven, in which case my money's on Sam 'n' Dean.
INTRIGUING. I've always favored a Bolivian Army Ending for them. The showrunners did say they would end it on a cliffhanger...

[identity profile] lexhibition.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Lisa and Dean commit suicide to be ~together forever~ in death.

Sam decides to escape back into the AU world and be Jarad Padalecki.

Castiel and Balthazar both turn human and adopt Ben.

Fandom explodes as it's revealed that season seven is just going to be 22 episodes of 22 different parent-teacher interviews. Castiel and Balthazar traumatize the faculty of Ben's school. And it's the school from Glee.
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[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
*blinded by beauty*

The season 7 I never knew I wanted. Oh but see now I want a story about Sam realizing that he's gonna have to take care of the real Jared. Cue Jared meeting Sam and piano wire in a dark alley at night! And then Sam, who is GOOD AT RESEARCH OR SO I HEAR, has researched all the Jared facts he can and slips into Jared's life second skin. Far from an easy transition, but Sam expected that. The alpaca refuses to go anywhere near him, sensing a shift. It spits on him often. But on the other hand, when Sam slips up and calls Gen Ruby in bed, she just laughs.

MEANWHILE:

Dean and Lisa have tea parties with Napoleon and Rumi.

MEANWHILE:

"You can't let him play with angel swords after I said he can't play with angel swords!" Balthazar hisses. "We have to present a UNITED FRONT."

[identity profile] cassiopeia7.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure that one of the "unexpected deaths" will be Balthazar. But even if Castiel dies, he won't stay that way, as God has developed a habit of bringing his favorite son back. *hopes*

Of course, if Misha really wants to leave, all bets are off. :(

ETA: Who is "Rachel"?
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[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 02:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Rachel is an angel and one of Castiel's trusty lieutenants. I CANNOT WAIT TO MEET HER. \o/

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[identity profile] glassyskies.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Every time I look at my flist (which, today, is more than usual) I SEE THIS GIF AND I GET MESMERIZED. It's making it REALLY difficult to talk myself out of writing Jensen/Misha

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
IKR. Paley was like God's gift to fandom. When the spoilers, pictures, and GIFs started rolling in, I was like *____* at my computer for, um, a long time. WHY CANNOT EVERYDAY BE PALEYPALOOZA?

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[identity profile] scarletsherlock.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I am torn between FALKJDSF;LAKSDJF;LKDSJ GODDAMN THIS SHOW and "Yay, now I can finally stop watching this crap that pisses me off and makes me rage each and every week!"

Because seriously? I've finally admitted that I'm here for Castiel, Balthazar, Bobby, Raphael, Lisa, Rufus, Meg, and pretty much everybody but Sam and Dean, at this point.

Though if it's the Purgatory thing that might be awesome.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
<3333 I UNDERSTAND YOU UTTERLY AND OFFER FISTBUMPS OF SYMPATHY.

I'm not going to stop watching the show, but I think I'll be able to watch it with a healthier (decreased) level of investment, aaaahahaha MAYBE. MAYBE I'LL STAY AS CRAZY AS I AM NOW. will ppl notice the difference?! Maybe my LJ will start having posts that aren't just about angels anymore. IMAGINE THAT.
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[identity profile] smilla02.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
OH THAT .GIF This Paley has brough so much joy to me. Everybody was on top form and in a good mood. I love this cast. ♥♥ Though, Jensen has failed in his collar-fixing job. I kept starting at Jared's shirt collar in the panel and *I* wanted to fix it. :D

I don't think Cas will be the unexpected death! I've been thinking Lisa and Ben for a while after learning that they'll be back (YAY!), but then after a more careful consideration, maybe it's Dean and Sam who will have to BOTH die this time, this mostly based on the talk about natural order they have disrupted by being alive. I would be so okay with it - especially if there's a season 7.

Cas will either lose all his power or give it up and decide to live on earth because you know that it's what I think Cas will want to do after he pacifies heaven.

The 'new beginning' comment is confusing me because it could mean so many things: the season was a dream/hallucination? They are able to go back in a place where certain things haven't happened? TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK while I stare some more at that .gif.

[identity profile] nyoka.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
the season was a dream/hallucination

BUTTING IN TO SAY, OH GOD, I HOPE SO.

As you know I'm also on the Sam&Dean must die train! DIE SAM AND DEAN, DIE!!!!!!!!!! I mean, that would be two shocking deaths, amirite? Give us that Butch Cassidy ending we've all wanted for so long <33333 Sam and Dean turn to look at each other one last time and Dean winks and Sam smiles and then they run off into a hailfire of bullets (er....Mother of All).

THE END. (or is it?)

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[identity profile] claudiapriscus.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet you it's the boys.

Really, I think the show should back away from "unexpected" deaths. They're all expected at this point. No character is safe from death by shock value! The only surprising thing is when characters other than Sam or Dean are brought back to life. But even that's wearing off.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
These suggestions that it's Sam and Dean who might die is new and intriguing to me. No way they'd die with S7 being a 95% sure thing. Hmm, but I guess they can always be resurrected through some unexplained plot device! That worked in the past.

Ugh, showrunners, such unrepentant trolls.

[identity profile] axilet.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
RETURN OF THE CLAIRESTIEL? *___*

I mean, that would mean it's not technically a death. But it would certainly be different and shocking. And Novakangst is totally canon, so.

I would guess Balthazar is one of those bagged, if only 'cause that is the usual cliched ending of an redemption arc. But really, it could be anyone other than Sam/Dean, since I'm fairly sure they do want a season seven and the Winchesters have been brought back enough times for it to get old if done too often imho.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I WOULD PUT MISHA IN A ROCKET TO THE MOON IF IT MEANS WE CAN HAVE CLAIRESTIEL AGAIN.

Yeah, death-by-redemption is what I'm seeing for Balthazar too. Maybe he'll save Cas from something! That would be grand, especially if there is an emotional death scene with a lot of personal space invasions.

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[identity profile] nyoka.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think Cassy is dying. I vote Sam and Dean! It's time the boys die together, going out in a blaze of glory and leaving fandom with the ultimate of ultimate cliffies. That would salvage the entire season for me! LOL!

Then again I'd love for everyone to die. ROCKS FALL, EVERYONE DIES. THE END. Party in heaven at 6 o'clock.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Your convo with Smilla up there is making me wish for this really bad.

I ALSO WOULD LOVE EVERYONE DEAD. Instead of just ending the world, the apocalypse ends up destroying ALL POSSIBLE REALITIES. Season 7 is just 22 episodes of 1 hour of blackness.

[identity profile] cugami.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you have the ass slap already?

[identity profile] cugami.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I will share with the class anyway.

Image

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[identity profile] zeitheist.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the only unexpected deaths at this point would be Sam and Dean.

S7 IS THE CASTIEL SPIN-OFF Y/N?

If Castiel is going to die, though, I want the writers to take their cues from you and have him throw himself into battle with Balthazar. Die in a blaze of glory, for a reason, you know? I will be so pissed if he dies for no reason.

ALSO THAT .GIF HOLY SHIT MISHA COLLINS.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
But S7 needs them! ...I guess that's why it'd be unexpected. WHAT WOULD TOTALLY BE UNEXPECTED IS THE CASTIEL SPIN-OFF SO YES, S7 SHOULD GO THAT ROUTE. I also nominate a wardrobe change. Maybe that blue&black ensemble from promo shots last year, humuna humuna.

I bet 6x20 is gonna give us so much Cas/Bal subtext that when they die in the finale, we will care heaps and heaps. I MEAN, I ALREADY CARE HEAPS AND HEAPS. BUT LIKE, A WHOLE LOT MORE HEAPS. I BET THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF 6x20, IS TO DRINK AND FEAST AND BE MERRY, FOR IN THE FINALE THEY DIE.

OH GOD

*breathes into paper bag*

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[identity profile] hereare-mysins.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
They don't know what to do with Castiel anyways, so they may as well off him now.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
THEN MAYBE FINALLY I WILL BE FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

OH GUESS WHERE I AM

GUESS WHO'S ABOUT TO GO DOWNSTAIRS AND NOM SO MUCH POMELO

dat's right

[identity profile] august-monsoon.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to say Cas will forever, he won't die, he's too popular to die, the producers will never allow it, but...but Mishaaaa!!!!!! What you say about him is true, he has a new baby, he can't keep pretending to be a growly angel with Jared playing silly pranks on him all day, everyday...it makes sense, but WHYYYY??????


DAMN YOU FOR PLANTING THE SEEDS OF INFERNAL DOUBT IN MY HEAD. DAMN YOU. *shakes tiny fist*

I see people think that Clairestiel may return if Misha were to leave, that might not be so bad....

But also? CAS' CHILDHOOD, YO, HOMG!!!!!!!

[identity profile] animus-wyrmis.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
OH MY GOD ARE SAM AND DEAN BOTH GOING TO DIE FOR REAL THIS TIME I HAVE BEEN SO GOOD AND SO PATIENT.

Idk, I tend not to put any stock in these things, we're down to three main characters (four if you count Bobby, I suppose), and they've all died before, and it's hard to take seriously that they may die again, like, okay, whatever, show. They may be pulling a ridiculous and killing of Lisa and Ben instead, for maximum angst value, but those are the only two characters I think I would assume would *stay* dead. Bobby the mentor/father figure is narratively in danger but I just have a hard time worrying about him.

We're still meant to meet Rachel the angel, right? She may die off too, the way Jo & Ellen were killed to showcase the realness of the apocalypse.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK ANYMORE. Everyone has arguments for why XYZ is going to die and now all I know is that EVERYONE IS GOING TO DIE, and maybe S7 is gonna be Claire and Aaron on the road trying to make sense of their angel trauma and FEELINGS for each other. :DDDDD oy we should get that spinoff.

I think Rachel shows up in the next episode. I CANNOT WAIT. I am envisioning her as the Pepper Potts to Cas's Tony Stark. I doubt she's going to be the surprising death.

[identity profile] metonomia.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
LASS DON'T SCARE ME LIKE THAT OH GOD OH GOD YOU'RE RIGHT OH GOD

GOING TO SOB MY HEART OUT

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
I'M SORRY METO I'M SORRY BUT PARANOIA LOVES COMPANY

IS IT PARANOIA IF IT'S VERY PROBABLE THOUGH

HAHAHA OH GOD I AM THE WORST

SORRY

CAS

CAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSS

...Maybe he will just get a new vessel though! That way Misha can be with his tiny human and we can still have Cas.

AUGH NO MAYBE I WANT CAS TO DIE SO I CAN BE SANE ABOUT TELEVISION AGAIN. LET ME GO, CAS.

NO

YES

NO

fdjsfjsd

[identity profile] metonomia.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
"I will say we conclusively deal with Sam's amnesia and the fact that he doesn't remember what happened to him in hell," Kripke says." He's got this bit of drywall in his head, but it's a shabby, unstable piece of drywall and it's only a matter of time before the wall falls down, and in the finale, the wall falls down."

WHAT IF SAM DIES?

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
People have been postulating that it's Sam and Dean a la Bolivian Army Ending. Or even NOT Bolivian Army Ending, because that's pretty much the only unexpected deaths right now. And they can't get new vessels.

IDK. I EXPECT EVERYONE TO DIE THOUGH.

[identity profile] vasiliki.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG, the gifs are @£!£$"S£Q$B%£!!!!! *____* When did this event take place? Now I have to look for videos, transcripts, eye-witness accounts, EVERYTHING!!!

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
IKR. The event is Paleyfest 2011. The GIF comes from the beginning of this clip.

[identity profile] saucery.livejournal.com 2011-03-18 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
No, you see, I mean, yes, Castiel will die, but then he'll come back in the body of a woman and Dean will fall HARD, or rather, realize that he'd already fallen hard and just hadn't had the guts to consummate anything, a situation that will be rectified "right quick", as the British say, after what seems to Dean like a hellishly long internal freakout but is approximately 0.03 seconds in real life. Also, Castiel!boobs are awesome, and will quickly replace Coors as Dean's favorite drug of choice. And then something will happen to put Castiel back in his original male body, and Dean will have ANOTHER hellishly long internal freakout about THE GAY and things will be AWKWAAAAAAARD for the entirety of season 7 and Sam will be, like, "you idiots," and Bobby will pretend not to notice anything (except for dispensing incredibly vague and roundabout advice tangentially related to his hot Satanic boyfriend), and by the end of season 7 the sexual tension between Dean and Castiel would have ratcheted to unbelievable levels equivalent to rainbow-colored radiation leaks, and Dean/Cas will finally be consummated in the form of feral, angsty, redeeming mansex and the heavens will shower the lands with, uh, milk. And, uh. Honey. Castiel might just be responsible for the milk. There will be a lot of it.

[identity profile] twoskeletons.livejournal.com 2011-03-19 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
WHY ARE YOU NOT WRITING FOR THIS SHOW?

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